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jcdenton08

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Respectfully they are far right fascists in my opinion. I get that others might not agree. Sending brown people who have escaped the horrors of war to Rwanda? Fascist. Failing to complete it because they didn't do their legal due diligence? Incompetence. Shutting down debate? Fascist.

Are you okay mate?
 




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@GB, respectfully, in light in the genocide and the rape of kids by real fascists just now in Ukraine, I think that's not the best term to use here.

Hitler never raped anyone so....he wasn't a fascist?
 




jcdenton08

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Fine.

What was with your meltdown?

I don’t think it’s right that people can post anything they like, up to and including threats of violence, just because their politics are popular. I hate Liz Truss and the Tories, but lots of comments here - including your own - are going way, way too far.
 




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Respectfully they are far right fascists in my opinion. I get that others might not agree. Sending brown people who have escaped the horrors of war to Rwanda? Fascist. Failing to complete it because they didn't do their legal due diligence? Incompetence. Shutting down debate? Fascist.

I calmly disagree (on the use of the term).

This is symptomatic of the extremes in which political adversaries talk these days … the opposition are scum, fascists.

Black and white, no grades of dislike or disagreement.
 








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I’m genuinely interested in why you think that?

Are you genuinely interested, though?

I see above he replied using his other account :facepalm:

Paying less income tax. What a guy.
 


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Since Putin started the genocidal war:

Euro lost 15% to USD.
GPB lost 20% to USD.
GBP lost 7% to Euro.

[Yes, I realise they're all interrelated stats].

So with a bit of digging, I can see that when exchange rates are mentioned and "the collapse of Sterling", the overwhelming majority of this has been suffered by the Eurozone too and it started 9 months before Putin acted.

My instinct is that the USD have the globe by the goolies on exchange rates, it's literally THE safe haven for assets in any crash, in this crash. Funds pouring in from 'Emerging Markets' too as everyone ditches Russia, parts of Asia, Latin America.

I'm sure that can't be right. We are a Major Power with financial influence over the whole globe, the special relationship, the commonwealth. We're definitely mot a minor European country, I've read it on here ???

*edit* There's a few getting excited, I'll pick up with you tomorrow if ether of us can be arsed :wink:
 
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jcdenton08

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Ironically, if this were a fascist state, you certainly wouldn’t be able to freely post about it.

I think using terms like “fascist” and “diktat” are just attempting to sound big and clever.

What you mean is you “hate” them because of their “policies”.

See how easy it is to make your point without turning into Rik from the Young Ones or Citizen Smith?
 




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I'm sure that can't be right. We are a Major Power with financial influence over the whole globe, the special relationship, the commonwealth. We're definitely mot a minor European country, I've read it on here ???

The USA have it made, despite earlier jump on the bandwagon analysis of the end of the empire/all hail China, Putin has inadvertently set the US into remaining the powerhouse for decades to come. Energy independent
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/03/08/surprise-the-us-is-still-energy-independent/?sh=3c9f188030b6, an ocean and many thousands of miles away from a bombed nuclear plant in Ukraine.

Putin in his land lust for Ukraine, failed to think strategically.
 


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6m killed in gas chambers versus a budget not liked.

Mussolini didn't gas anyone as far as I recall. Not a fascist?

I understand the term to mean a political philosophy. Paolo Di Cannio declared himself a fascist (but not a racist). Not sure he's gassed anyone either.

I don't think its fair to berate [MENTION=616]Guinness Boy[/MENTION] for invoking the term. Personally I'd wait till a government fiddles with the constituency borders and voting arrangements so they can't lose a general election before calling them......oh, hang on :facepalm:
 








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Mussolini didn't gas anyone as far as I recall. Not a fascist?

I understand the term to mean a political philosophy. Paolo Di Cannio declared himself a fascist (but not a racist). Not sure he's gassed anyone either.

I don't think its fair to berate [MENTION=616]Guinness Boy[/MENTION] for invoking the term. Personally I'd wait till a government fiddles with the constituency borders and voting arrangements so they can't lose a general election before calling them......oh, hang on :facepalm:

That wasn’t berating, I was very polite and gave a valid rationale.
 


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Are you genuinely interested, though?

I see above he replied using his other account :facepalm:

Paying less income tax. What a guy.

I am. I am interested in whether those who are winners from today intend to behave in a way the CX said they would ie stimulate growth, set up new businesses, employ more people or if instead they would just top up their pension pot, book a better overseas holiday or buy a fancier foreign car.
 


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