Letter to Lib Dem councillors

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Jim - excellent letter - and please can you send a copy to all of the candidates in the Leadership election.

Look forward to seeing their replies.

As far as Lewes in concerned - IMO Polititians are only interested in one thing - staying in power. Anything that can be done to put pressure on Councillors to make them think that their ward isn't happy with them and their actions is hopefully gonna start making them think.

What if local Tories (only hope of winning LibDem seats in Lewes) were asked their views on Falmer ?- especially those who may be standing next year in the Elections. When informed that Lewes residents voted 5 -1 in favour of Falmer yet the Council still wants to throw money at a JR perhaps they might come out in favour of Falmer?

Or am I pissing in the wind wanting help from the Tories - probably as keen as the LibDems to see Prescott lose - although in Westminster the only thing the 2 major parties agree on is how to destroy theLib Dem vote

How can we continue to try and pressurise LDC - and show how undemocratic their behaviour is - wonder if Harty had a word with Paul Hayward last night - get some decent broadsheet Journo down and see what a bunch of buffoons these people running a council really are. Right in the middle of a leadership election as well - got to be worth a shout?

In fact lets email Paul - anyone got an address?.

 

[portlock seagull]

"The time for writing letters is OVER. A new age has begun. The time for signing people up for Pizza deliveries has begun".
(Gandalf, Edoras, 3013)

 

[Yorkie]

Lewes & Falmer councils must be loving all this in house fighting with players, fans and the media.

 

[Kent Seagull]

Who said "It's a matter for the Deputy Prime Minister to judge the planning application."? The answer of course is Norman Baker, who now disagrees with the decision. What a man of your word you are Norman. I just wish I lived in Lewes so I could vote against you. TWAT.

Great letter Jim, I wish I could write like that! That deserves the widest possible circulation.

 

[Curious Orange]

Lewes & Falmer councils must be loving all this in house fighting with players, fans and the media.

It isn't fighting, Yorkie, its an open debate, something the executive committee of Lewes District Council only have when its convenient to them.

 

[Jim in the West]

"The time for writing letters is OVER. A new age has begun. The time for signing people up for Pizza deliveries has begun".
(Gandalf, Edoras, 3013)

Until a few weeks ago, I thought the same (especially the bit about Pizzas). However, I firmly believe the time for writing letters has definitely resurfaced. In my view it's up to us to:

(a) put pressure on Lib Dem LDC councillors - they may be Lib Dems, but they're like most other councillors - they want a little bit of power, but otherwise they're just ordinary folk with probably slightly below average intellect. We need to make the more sensible one's very uncomfortable with LDC's stance;
(b) highlight to the Tories and Independents on LDC that they have an opportunity to grab some votes come 2007 by undermining the Lib Dems stance on Falmer;
(c) highlight to Tory councillors in Eastbourne, Worthing, Adur, etc that what the Lib Dems are doing in Lewes is undemocratic, and that pointing this out to their own electorate in advance of the May 2006 local elections can only do them good, in undermining support for the Lib Dems.

Plus a few other things!

 

[mona]

It is an excellent letter and could well encourage some of the reasonable LibDem people to think again, particularly when they realise how developed the university sites are. Good on yer, Jim.

However, the Falmer campaign made serious mistakes in underestimating the determination of Baker, DeVecchi and Commin to win by bankrupting the club. The issue now is to find as much out about these individuals as possible. If they have any skeletons they need to be aired. Only by threatening their political careers will we ever see any sort of compromise from them. Their lies about defending the environment have conned a lot of people who don't know the actual site.
By using delays and lying, Baker, DeVecchi and Commin have fought dirty throughout. We have given them a very soft ride so far. This must change.

 

[mona]

Until a few weeks ago, I thought the same (especially the bit about Pizzas). However, I firmly believe the time for writing letters has definitely resurfaced. In my view it's up to us to:

(a) put pressure on Lib Dem LDC councillors - they may be Lib Dems, but they're like most other councillors - they want a little bit of power, but otherwise they're just ordinary folk with probably slightly below average intellect. We need to make the more sensible one's very uncomfortable with LDC's stance;
(b) highlight to the Tories and Independents on LDC that they have an opportunity to grab some votes come 2007 by undermining the Lib Dems stance on Falmer;
(c) highlight to Tory councillors in Eastbourne, Worthing, Adur, etc that what the Lib Dems are doing in Lewes is undemocratic, and that pointing this out to their own electorate in advance of the May 2006 local elections can only do them good, in undermining support for the Lib Dems.

What I still find hard to understand is that Lewes DC don't seem to realise that they are destroying an important Sussex institution that draws support from across the county.

 

[Everest]

Lewes & Falmer councils must be loving all this in house fighting with players, fans and the media.

I'd much rather it was "in house fighting" than going out with rent boys! Now I wonder which one of us did that?

 

[Jim in the West]

I've had three responses so far (not bad, as the letter only went out on Weds), all simply pre-printed post cards with two boxes for the councillor to tick. The text goes:

"Thank you for your recent communication:

I have noted the contents; or
I will contact you about this matter in the near future."

All three respondents (M Chartier, R Taylor, and Neil Commin) ticked the former. However, Mr Commin (who is Leader of the Council) hand-wrote a little note at the foot of the postcard:

"Thank you for writing so courteously and passionately"

He has been described elsewhere on this board as "smug and slimey" - yet his note doesn't give that impression....

 

[Franks Wild Years]

Good work Jim. We need to be fighting on all fronts , it all helps the cause.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

tactical voting in the May local elections could influence things at LibDem HQ if they lose seats all over Sussex thereby exerting pressure on LDC to be sensible.

 

[vauxhallexile]

Until a few weeks ago, I thought the same (especially the bit about Pizzas). However, I firmly believe the time for writing letters has definitely resurfaced. In my view it's up to us to:

(a) put pressure on Lib Dem LDC councillors - they may be Lib Dems, but they're like most other councillors - they want a little bit of power, but otherwise they're just ordinary folk with probably slightly below average intellect. We need to make the more sensible one's very uncomfortable with LDC's stance;
(b) highlight to the Tories and Independents on LDC that they have an opportunity to grab some votes come 2007 by undermining the Lib Dems stance on Falmer;
(c) highlight to Tory councillors in Eastbourne, Worthing, Adur, etc that what the Lib Dems are doing in Lewes is undemocratic, and that pointing this out to their own electorate in advance of the May 2006 local elections can only do them good, in undermining support for the Lib Dems.

Plus a few other things!

As has been said elsewhere, the Tories also support LDC's stance on Falmer....so they are unlikely to benefit....

 

[Yorkie]

tactical voting in the May local elections could influence things at LibDem HQ if they lose seats all over Sussex thereby exerting pressure on LDC to be sensible.

I haven't got any election until 2007 in my area of LDC.

 

[Jim in the West]

I haven't got any election until 2007 in my area of LDC.

Yorkie, you're right - the next local elections in Lewes (and most of Sussex) are not til May 2007. However, there ARE local elections in May 2006 in the following areas:

Eastbourne, Worthing, Adur, Crawley.

In these areas, Lib Dems losing lots of seats could be very beneficial in pressurising LDC into re-thinking their strategy. From what I can see, Eastbourne is the best place to target, as the Lib Dems could very easily gain control there - currently 14 tories, 13 Lib Dems. We need some Eastbourne residents to start stirring things up there - surely some NSC regulars live there??

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Too many words in all of the above letters.

Just let the c*nts know that they can jerk the Abion about to their hearts content this year, and for the first quarter of next year. And they will. Because they can. But we'll still be here next year, and we'll ensure that every last one of the malicious fuckers is voted out of affice at their next local election in May 2007.

Don't get mad, get EVEN

 

[Jim in the West]

As has been said elsewhere, the Tories also support LDC's stance on Falmer....so they are unlikely to benefit....

But the Tory candidate at the last General Election supported Falmer, as did (I believe) a number of the Tory candidates in Brighton & Hove. This may have been political expediency, but as the whole matter is political now, that's irrelevant. More important is the stance of Tories in places like Eastbourne and Worthing - if they have a stance, that is.