Cian
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well done your mother and her friend. what a lovely tale.
it bothers me because who cares that they're gay? why should we care? well done, you're homosexual.. don't have a party, just get on with it. i don't get half naked and party all day long once a year with like minded people because i'm straight.
you're little "theory" on security and insecurity is pathetic.
most people have an issue because no one cares anymore that there is gays, when gays act like civilised human beings there is nothing wrong whatsoever. this type of special day to celebrate homosexuality is a very large part of what is wrong with fashionable over the top "political correctness"
and you can stick your freud and your A level psychology book up your arse (pardon the pun) you moron
Thanks for the a level compliment
at GCSE level, but i'll take that as a compliment.So minorities shouldn't celebrate? So, prosuming you do, why do you chant at brighton matches ' we are brighton from the south', who cares if you support brighton, don't have a party just get on with it...
Perhaps I haven't given you credit, maybe you are, as you say, fine with it. However, it's clear society is not. homophobic attacks are rising and kids still don't feel they can come out - this sort of thing lets them see it isn't just them all alone and that they can be proud to be what they are.
You also talk of 'acting civilised' and about nakedness. So what about page 3 models and girls you see walking down the street is barely anything!?!? If they're allowed to do, why aren't the gay population...!?
Paxton Dazo
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The Poofffffssssssss Got Wetttttt!!!! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
f***ing ****s, I Had To Walk From Brighton Station To My House ( Both Ways!)
The Poofffffssssssss Got Wetttttt!!!! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
f***ing ****s, I Had To Walk From Brighton Station To My House ( Both Ways!)
chip
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Except that this is a report primarily written by a PhD student/RA who is working on a thesis on aclohol & safe sex. The state has been lnown to manipulate quite a few studies and insist on changes or even halt publication when they don't like the results. That aside, the authors do say
"Several cautions are needed about this method of presentation. First, statistical
differences between groups may not be reflected in the actual proportions in the table. Thus, what appears to be a large difference on one variable might not be significant, while a small difference on another could be. This is because statistical significance depends not only on the difference between groups in outcome but also on the size of the groups involved and the distribution of other variables in the analysis."
So, not really a full statistical analysis then although p values look quite sound. The link between eductaional achievement and homophobia is rather absurd.
ok, christ, didn't ask for your life story
Thanks for the a level compliment
So minorities shouldn't celebrate? So, prosuming you do, why do you chant at brighton matches ' we are brighton from the south', who cares if you support brighton, don't have a party just get on with it...
Perhaps I haven't given you credit, maybe you are, as you say, fine with it. However, it's clear society is not. homophobic attacks are rising and kids still don't feel they can come out - this sort of thing lets them see it isn't just them all alone and that they can be proud to be what they are.
You also talk of 'acting civilised' and about nakedness. So what about page 3 models and girls you see walking down the street is barely anything!?!? If they're allowed to do, why aren't the gay population...!?
in what way is society not ok with homosexuality? name one way in which the majority do not accept homosexuality.
well why would they be confident about coming out? kids get bullied about everything in school, and of course kids at school, when they are immature pick on any sign of weakness, and that would be seen as one.
im sure you see bullying of all types whilst eating your little sarnie on lunch break.
there is always a minority in society who do not act in a civilised manner. for example, page 3 models, mincers, homophobes, racists, hippes (see that covers all corners)
people chant brighton, because they are supporting their team, and their is a certain level of rivalry and competition between different clubs. i am also proud of being from brighton. there is no need to be proud of being gay, if it such a normal thing nowadays.. im not proud of being straight, but i am proud about where im from and my football team
Sorry, I've been out with mates all day.
Probably a concept you're not familiar with, judging from the fact you've been here all day. Maybe it's time to ask the big question, why?
Anyway, people constantly go on about how ' if we had a straight person march etc etc etc'. And in all honesty, I used to be oen of them. I used to say ' if we had a white mans march they'd be so many protests against it' etc. But would there? Has anyone ever actually tried it?
Blaiming them for disease is absolutely ridiculous! If you want to blaim any group for the spread of sexual disease surely it is the Catholic church! But even that would be ridiculous.
The funny thing it, many of you don't in fact have arguments whatsoever. You'll make sweeping statements, then when someone brings a REAL experience or someone who knows first hand, you'll take the mick because of their experiences, which clearly make them gay.
So either your statement are completely un-grounded (most likely) or you have had experiences which you are ashamed of.
Probably a concept you're not familiar with, judging from the fact you've been here all day. Maybe it's time to ask the big question, why?
Anyway, people constantly go on about how ' if we had a straight person march etc etc etc'. And in all honesty, I used to be oen of them. I used to say ' if we had a white mans march they'd be so many protests against it' etc. But would there? Has anyone ever actually tried it?
Blaiming them for disease is absolutely ridiculous! If you want to blaim any group for the spread of sexual disease surely it is the Catholic church! But even that would be ridiculous.
The funny thing it, many of you don't in fact have arguments whatsoever. You'll make sweeping statements, then when someone brings a REAL experience or someone who knows first hand, you'll take the mick because of their experiences, which clearly make them gay.
So either your statement are completely un-grounded (most likely) or you have had experiences which you are ashamed of.
is that a reply to my post edward?
Because it's still thought of as a negative! The general attitude, that I've experienced and know of, is one of ' oh, poor you'.
Gay kids gets it much much worse though. Nope, can't saay I do see much bullying because I think the term 'bullying' is so overused it is unreal. Unkindness is not bullying.
But the thing is, the gay communtiy perhaps do not think others percieve them as being normal. In my opinion, I don't think people think of homosexuality as 'normal' whatsoever.
Of course they can be proud of being gay! why not!? It's an aspect to their personality, to who they are! In much the same way that my hetersexuality and my support of Brighton are only 2 aspects of my personality, and yes I'm proud of both.
But I'm lucky enough to be in a position where I don't feel my hetersexuality is an issue whatsoever, I live in a society where that is considered the 'norm' and I am a confident person. But I can say 100% that if I was gay it would be another story. I do have a very supportive fantastic family, a strong network of friends, go to a good school and live in a nice area - but even still I would feel threatened.
How you can deny that it's easier to be straight then gay I don't know!
Cian
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No its not... Its a state survey, written by three people - two fully qualified researchers from Royal College of Surgeons and the health programme director of ESRI. Where did you manage to make that crap up from? Its also not on alcohol and safe sex, its on sexual health and relationships.
So, two things from the off. Were you looking at the same survey? Appeears not.
Yes, simplistically, that is what I'm trying to say.
But I'm also trying to get across how ridiculous homophobia really is and how wrong it is.
chip
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From the link that you gave.
The Irish Study of Sexual Health and Relationships: Sub Report 3 - Sexual Knowledge, Attitudes and Behaviours - A Further Analysis
Author(s):
Cousins, Grainne (RCSI) / Layte, Richard / McGee, Hannah (RCSI)
Actually, I was trying to make the more general point that the facts very much depend on the samples and their relevance hence I mentioned the Wilcoxon measure. Now, if you could cite a Cochrane review it would have much more weight.
I'd love to know what you think a "fully qualified researcher" is. Is there some body or organization that confers this status?
you've experienced what exactly? you're in school, you know nothing about the real world. how is it thought of as being a negative thing? surely only in the minds of people who are against homosexuality (muslims and homophobes?)
yes, gay kids will get bullied at school. yes, muslims get bullied at school. yes, fat kids get bullied. yes, ugly kids get bullied. it is not overused whatsoever, there is an extortionate amount of bullying amongst kids nowadays.
the gay people i know do not make a deal of it at all, see it as normal for them, and would never mince about, dress as a girl, announce it to the world, that they are gay. they are normal, rational human beings.
why would you be proud of being straight? you wouldnt know any other way. why would your heterosexuality be an issue? to whom could it be? gay extremists?
no one cares where you live or how many little pals you have. you would probably feel threatened as you are in school, so you would be terrorised. people in the real world can get along with their lives just fine, in most circumstances.
where did i deny that? i merely stated that there should be no special day to celebrate homosexuality.
Tom Bombadil
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Don't fight it BB, we're nearly there. Just come on out and say it - you want to suck the purple love truncheon and none of you homophobic bluster can cover the fact.
Cian
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Sexual health and relationships now means sexual health and alcohol, which is what you said?
I think you'll find colleges, and the PhD you mentioned, confer the status of being 'fully qualified'.
You made stuff up about the survey without even taking a look at it, and now you're trying to edge around the issue. Its not about what you claimed it was about and the people who did it are neither students nor research assistants.
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Iam not homophobic although I am against Pride as it stands it used to be in 1998-2001 ish a celebration of Brighton & Hove enjoyed by all those who paid there council tax towards it .............now it is just a binfest of outragessness and a major inconvieniance to the city and us that CAN live within the city.
Why not just sit or lay down at home a celebrate being different .....oh no you don't want to be different do you so why advertise it.?
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chip
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Sexual health and relationships now means sexual health and alcohol, which is what you said?
I think you'll find colleges, and the PhD you mentioned, confer the status of being 'fully qualified'.
You made stuff up about the survey without even taking a look at it, and now you're trying to edge around the issue. Its not about what you claimed it was about and the people who did it are neither students nor research assistants.
OK, you obviously haven't even looked at the report or you would know what I was talking about. The first authour is employed by RCSI as a research officer and her thesis is on alcohol and sexual health. She did not have a PhD at the time of writing that report, so by your definition is not fully qualified.
I made nothing up, why would I. You where trying to be clever by citing a report that you have not even read the introduction to and I have caught you out. From page v (in the preamble)
"Gráinne Cousins completed a BA in Applied Psychology at UCC in 1999, before obtaining a Master’s in Health Psychology at NUIG in 2002. She has been a research officer in the Psychology Department, Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland (RCSI) since 2004. She is currently completing a PhD entitled: ‘Alcohol and Unsafe Sex: understanding their complex interaction in a general population sample’, at the RCSI."
It is also important to point out that this report is not peer reviewed.
And I'm the dunce?