Lee Mason - Absolute disgrace

[clapham_gull]

Common sense should have been used for the first penalty, Bale (not sure if he was the last men, can't remember now) but I'm sure there was at least one Spurs player in the box (think it was Corluka) who would have come across and dealt with the situation.

Second red-card, the tackle wasn't even that high, you see tackles like that all the time, a yellow card at best. No wonder Dawson went mental.

In a different game today, I saw a ridiculous red card given to Matt Killgallon of Sheff United because he caught someone in the back, football is supposed to be a mans game, not a game for ponces.

As far as I am aware, the "last man" doesn't apply. Not sure what you mean by not remembering whether he was the last man or not, or whether there was another person in the box. The rules are quite clear.

If a foul denies an obvious goal scoring opportunity then it's a red.

Sending Off Offences are :
(S1) Serious Foul Play,
(S2) Violent Conduct,
(S3) Spitting at an Opponent or any other person,
(S4) Denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball,
(S5) Denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity by an offence punishable by a free kick or penalty kick,
(S6) Use of Offensive or Insulting or abusive Language and or gestures
(S7) Receiving a second caution in the same match

 

[One True BHA]

you tosser. both red card decisions were blatantly obvious. the only mistake made today was the yids goal, which was the linos fault, not the referees.

 

[Il Duce]

you tosser. both red card decisions were blatantly obvious. the only mistake made today was the yids goal, which was the linos fault, not the referees.

Unfortunately all true. Stoke could easily have won by more as the game wore on. Tottenham look tidy at times but they still have no real penetration. That Russian bloke looks utterly pathetic in English football.

 

[Titanic]

He got both decisions right.

RM Taylor needs to take of the Spurs tinted specs. He watched a different game to the rest of us.

Your being a MASSIVE gimp today Taylor

R-M Taylor knows f*** all about football.

This is not news.

you tosser. both red card decisions were blatantly obvious. the only mistake made today was the yids goal, which was the linos fault, not the referees.

Agreed

 

[brighton rock]

fair play to the ref he was spot on

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Got both right.

I do however think if you give away a pen and your the last man you should not be sent off for it.

 

[clapham_gull]

Got both right.

I do however think if you give away a pen and your the last man you should not be sent off for it.

... or deny a clear goalscoring opportunity which is the actual rule, doesn't even have to be inside the box.

You can understand why the ruling was introduced. You are a defender and you take a player down who looks like he has clear chance on goal.

In doing so, you have essentially given your team a chance to stop "the goal" by awarding a penalty to the opponent.

Because of this, there has to be a "definate penalty" i.e. losing a player.

I totally agree with the ruling.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

... or deny a clear goalscoring opportunity which is the actual rule, doesn't even have to be inside the box.

You can understand why the ruling was introduced. You are a defender and you take a player down who looks like he has clear chance on goal.

In doing so, you have essentially given your team a chance to stop "the goal" by awarding a penalty to the opponent.

Because of this, there has to be a "definate penalty" i.e. losing a player.

I totally agree with the ruling.

I agree that a goal scoring chance out side the box should be red, but it ruins the game if one team gets a pen in the first min and the keeper is sent off.

 

[Notters]

Agreed

Agreed

 

[clapham_gull]

I agree that a goal scoring chance out side the box should be red, but it ruins the game if one team gets a pen in the first min and the keeper is sent off.

Yeah, well I agree to the extent that I don't like to see sendings off at the start of a game because they invariably ruin it.

The ruling was introduced to stop the "professional foul"

 

[Muhammad - I’m hard - Bruce Lee]

Agreed

agreed also

 

[Stoo82]

He got both decisions right.

Agree. I thought the ref had a good game. I though Spurs should have got a pen at the end. But well done ref.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Agreed.

First red card Bale was the last man and had to go, second one his foot was way above the ball and was a horrible tackle.

Correct.

That tackle was way over the top of the ball, on another day that is a leg breaker.

 

[clapham_gull]

Can somebody point to the bit of the rules where it mentions "last man".....

 

[saltash seagull]

they were both red cards

 

[The Large One]

Just seen them on MOTD.

Mr Taylor - be quiet.

 

[steward 433]

Just seen them on MOTD.

Mr Taylor - be quiet.

Agreed TLO

 

[beardy gull]

Agree. I thought the ref had a good game. I though Spurs should have got a pen at the end. But well done ref.

Both correct decisions. When should Spurs have got a pen? It was def not handball if that's what you mean.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

I agree with Kinky. It seems strange that you get sent off when giving away a penalty. You're hardly "denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity" when you give away a penalty really... outside the box yes, inside the box no.

 

[Brovion]

Yup, both cards were correct. To argue they were wrong is a bit like saying you shouldn't restart the game with a kick-off in the centre cirlce after a goal; it's all to do with the Laws of the game. Only the most rabid, one-eyed, blinkered, ignorant Spurs fan could even THINK of questioning them

I thought this thread was going to be about the WORST decision yesterday which was to allow the Spurs goal which was YARDS offside. The linesman wasn't even level! Now that WAS a disgrace!