[Help] Learning web design and app development

[Randy McNob]

my daughter is interested in studying this. what is the best areas to learn and where to start for a beginner?

javascript
Python
SQLO
web dev

Any advice appreciated

 

[HeaviestTed]

Just try and build a website with html, JavaScript, css - that will be a great start and there is loads of stuff to learn there.

Once you know the basics start looking at some of the more complex stuff, if she wants to be a front end dev then you don’t need sql.

The other approach is to learn programming in general first like python and then add on front end return later - she’ll likely get better paid that way tbh.

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

my daughter is interested in studying this. what is the best areas to learn and where to start for a beginner?

javascript
Python
SQLO
web dev

Any advice appreciated

Unfortunately these subjects are likely to be some of the first to become obsolete with the burgeoning A.i. revolution.

My advice would be to tell her to reconsider and choose another subject.

 

[HeaviestTed]

Unfortunately these subjects are likely to be some of the first to become obsolete with the burgeoning A.i. revolution.

My advice would be to tell her to reconsider and choose another subject.

I’ve used copilot and stuff and they aren’t going to remove web devs anytime soon (although I’d still suggest learning development first then web dev)

Even if AI was able to accurately create what a non dev wanted them to - the actual hard part is converting people’s ideas into what they actually want and AI isn’t doing that.

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

I’ve used copilot and stuff and they aren’t going to remove web devs anytime soon (although I’d still suggest learning development first then web dev)

My dad spent 7 years becoming a master printer and just as he became fully qualified, automation arrived and decimated his skilled profession.

Starting out in web development today is a similarly badly timed endeavour.

 

[Husty]

Plenty of free resources on codeacademy, just get stuck in

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

my daughter is interested in studying this. what is the best areas to learn and where to start for a beginner?

javascript
Python
SQLO
web dev

Any advice appreciated

Would she consider getting into software testing instead? It's independent of any particular flavour of software development that may become defunct overnight, and will always be needed, AI or no AI. Any software developer always thinks that they're shit hot and is always sure that their code is error-free. They're always wrong

 

[Icy Gull]

Would she consider getting into software testing instead? It's independent of any particular flavour of software development that may become defunct overnight, and will always be needed, AI or no AI. Any software developer always thinks that they're shit hot and is always sure that their code is error-free. They're always wrong

Disappointing, I saw you as the last poster and was certain that I was going to read

5 minute job

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Disappointing, I saw you as the last poster and was certain that I was going to read

5 minute job

Good point, well made. Fluffed my lines there. Gah!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

my daughter is interested in studying this. what is the best areas to learn and where to start for a beginner?

javascript
Python
SQLO
web dev

Any advice appreciated

when I was at Uni this sort of stuff was firmly in the hands of socially awkward males. Even later in life when I started working it was invariably men with pony tails and heavy metal or science fiction/fantasy tee shirts. Fast forward 25 years and there was a “women in coding” meeting at my co-working space rammed with chicks.

I can’t offer any advice, just envy at how much more fun and less-lonely it must be for young male coders today.

 

[Shorehamseagull]

I’d look into React. You need to pickup html, JavaScript and css a long the way with it.

Also consider whether she’s more into design, user interface, human centred design or more back end technical stuff. They’re very different ends of the spectrum and require different skills.

Loads of free stuff online

 

[clapham_gull]

Unfortunately these subjects are likely to be some of the first to become obsolete with the burgeoning A.i. revolution.

My advice would be to tell her to reconsider and choose another subject.

Unless she gets a job in A.I.

I'd study any of those, python not a bad language to pick up in any case especially if you want to program cloud services like Amazon.

In any case, if she gets a job IT she have actual technical qualifications rather than vast majority who work in it.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

Echo the unfortunate sentiment it's probably not worth starting. In five years front end dev work will be hard to find, in ten years anything but the most high level programming will be hard to find.

AI is moving at an incredibly rapid rate, even Elementor (a popular wordpress drag and drop page builder) has AI generation tools already implemented.

 

[sparkie]

Would she consider getting into software testing instead? It's independent of any particular flavour of software development that may become defunct overnight, and will always be needed, AI or no AI. Any software developer always thinks that they're shit hot and is always sure that their code is error-free. They're always wrong

I suspect software testing is also not immune from full automation.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I suspect software testing is also not immune from full automation.

There's been part-automated software testing in place for years. It's usually pretty worthless apart from the most basic level of testing. And even the results of those tests usually need to be sanity-checked by a human

 

[Iritari]

Python was a great choice for my daughter. It’s straightforward, widely used, and versatile, making it perfect for beginners to grasp the basics of programming. Once she got the hang of it, we moved on to JavaScript and SQL.

 

[monty uk]

Now that she'd cracked Python it might be worth her investigating Rust. Seems to be one of the languages of choice for Blockchain applications:

How Rust went from a side project to the world’s most-loved programming language

For decades, coders wrote critical systems in C and C++. Now they turn to Rust.

www.technologyreview.com

Although I left real programming behind after Fortran, Assembler and PLM/86 so don't rely on my expertise.

As an observation, job adverts seem to ask for experience in particular languages - so maybe useful for her to get a wider range of languages under her belt, even if a potential job offer doesn't look that interesting.

Also agree that AI is a threat in this industry and will encroach very quickly, so flexibility and rapid response to situations is essential.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

Python was a great choice for my daughter. It’s straightforward, widely used, and versatile, making it perfect for beginners to grasp the basics of programming. Once she got the hang of it, we moved on to JavaScript and SQL.

Obviously a bot account, reported

 

[thedonkeycentrehalf]

Another option to consider is the UX/UI design route.