League Tables last 5 years at 21 games...

[Bold Seagull]

Not doing so bad really are we!

 

[Blue and White Tiger]

3 seasons in a row we had 32 points at this stage. Strange

 

[Eric Youngs Contact Lense]

I have even more hope if those figures are accurate... I can't remember which teams got promoted in each season, but the points tally of the teams at the top are remarkably consistent...

 

[Moshe Gariani]

In 4 of those 5 years...

The team top of the league had only won 2 of their last 5 games.

Back-to-back away draws, at top half teams, is the form of Champions.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Well, the team top of the league went up automatically each of those years. So looking good Boro. The team second went up through the play-offs three times and failed to get promotion the other two years. hmmm

or another way of looking at it, each team that had 43 points or more went up automatically, and those that had at least 41 points went up somehow.

but thats all history................

 

[Ernest]

It means nothing , the only table that counts is this seasons

 

[Moshe Gariani]

It means nothing , the only table that counts is this seasons

"Whoever wishes to foresee the future must consult the past; for human events ever resemble those of preceding times." Machiavelli (or it might have been Big Hilda down The Cliftonville last Saturday morning ...)

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

or as Karl Marx once said, History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.

 

[WhingForPresident]

As I put in my "Fun Facts.." thread, every team in the last 10 seasons that's had 43 points at this stage has gone on to win promotion, all automatically bar West Ham in 2011-12 who won the play-offs.

Not to say it really has any relevance, just an observation.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

It also does away with the myth that this season is tighter at the top than before.

True. Always likely to be a very tight scrap for promotion.

We have a run of games in Feb and March from which I hope we can manage to get a bit of breathing space before the final couple of games.

 

[Bold Seagull]

It means nothing , the only table that counts is this seasons

It means everything and nothing at the same time. This season is the only table that counts, but we can't know what the table will be in 25 games time, so our only frame of reference is to the past. That may or may not have relevance to this season. We won't know till the end, and that of course is the beauty and excitement of it.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

As I put in my "Fun Facts.." thread, every team in the last 10 seasons that's had 43 points at this stage has gone on to win promotion, all automatically bar West Ham in 2011-12 who won the play-offs.

Not to say it really has any relevance, just an observation.

West Ham had 40 points, according to the table above

 

[Stato]

The last team to have 43 points after 21 games and not be promoted from this division was Bradford City in 1987. Only two teams were promoted that year and Bradford lost in the play offs.
Ipswich had 42 points at this stage in 2004/05 and missed out.
Of the teams that have had 40 or more points at this stage in the last 30 years: 37 have been promoted, 15 missed out, mostly through being beaten in the play offs.
Of the 15 that missed out 11 had 40 points after 21 games, 2 had 41, 1 had 42 and only Bradford had 43.

As Ernest says, the past means nothing, but lets hope we do not end up bothering Bradford's record.

 

[WhingForPresident]

West Ham had 40 points, according to the table above

Good point. Make that every team has been promoted automatically then.

 

[Arthritic Toe]

Interesting that Cardiff had lost 5 at this point in 2012 and still had a point more than we have now.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

As we know, records and stats are there to be broken which means this means nothing

 

[GingerBeerMan]

Interesting that Cardiff had lost 5 at this point in 2012 and still had a point more than we have now.

Didn't we go there and beat them that year? 2-1 or something

 

[Arthritic Toe]

Didn't we go there and beat them that year? 2-1 or something

I think we did. We ended their unbeaten home record.

 

[el punal]

Not doing so bad really are we!

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The December 2013 table is interesting, a breakaway of four teams (40 points+) of which three were eventually promoted. Very similar stats to this season. I wonder if the outcome will be the same?

 

[knocky1]

Didn't we go there and beat them that year? 2-1 or something

2-0 Orlando and Spanish Dave(?). Two breakaways.