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[Misc] Lane keep assist on cars



pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
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I put it on if I feeling particularly tired, makes sense really.
 




PeterT

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Apr 21, 2017
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There's a massive variation in how intrusive the systems are in different cars/brands, which doesn't help its appeal. I'll often 'use' it in different cars when I simply can't be arsed to turn it off every time I get in.

As far as driver assistance systems go, it's nowhere near the most annoying.
I rented a Peugeot 308 in France last year and did over 1,000 km in it. By a distance the worst thing about that car, which otherwise I enjoyed driving, was its lane assist feature that I had to turn off every time I got into the car, the default setting (which I guess could have been changed somewhere) was to have it turned on. It felt like someone else was driving instead of me, like one of those dreams you get that has a hidden meaning to it!
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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I just think it's one of those things where car designers are spending loads of time and money on R&D to achieve something which might initially sound good, but is pointless and in most cases annoying.

More focus on fuel efficiency (and don't fabricate the results this time) would actually make a difference. Lighter batteries on EV's Or just making a car cheaper. This arms race to make cars ever more computerised is my my view, expensive folly.
 


Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003
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I encountered this on a hire car in Spain. Unless you indicated both ways on the motorway it would object whenever I tried to pull back in after overtaking. That was a bit annoying, but other than that I thought it was an ok feature and hardly noticeable 99% of the time.
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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I rented a Peugeot 308 in France last year and did over 1,000 km in it. By a distance the worst thing about that car, which otherwise I enjoyed driving, was its lane assist feature that I had to turn off every time I got into the car, the default setting (which I guess could have been changed somewhere) was to have it turned on. It felt like someone else was driving instead of me, like one of those dreams you get that has a hidden meaning to it!
No, you can't normally.

I can only assume you haven't experienced the system that alerts you when the speed limit changes.

Every. Single. Time.

Again, it's not on all cars, but the Koreans are all over it...
 


Boroseagull

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Aug 23, 2003
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My Honda CR-V (2 years old) has it but you have to turn lane control on. However at times the cruise control drives me mad with its sudden braking, however most of the time it's excellent.
 


Commander

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Apr 28, 2004
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Didn't know you could turn it off. I guess it's quite useful if you doze off or something.
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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Also gives you a concentration report (Hyundai Ionic) bit like my school report "Can do Better".....
If they invented a system in which your car said to you, "put your phone down you twat" or even better, locked it when you pick it up when you're behind the wheel, i'd get behind it
 


Badger

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May 8, 2007
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I encountered this on a hire car in Spain. Unless you indicated both ways on the motorway it would object whenever I tried to pull back in after overtaking. That was a bit annoying, but other than that I thought it was an ok feature and hardly noticeable 99% of the time.
Why would you not indicate when you change lanes after overtaking on a motorway? Any lane change should be signalled.
 


Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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What a silly comment, cars have evolved to do all the mundane tasks we used to have to endure to make journeys easier and safer
Those "mundane tasks" are generally what keeps you alert behind the wheel. Building in these additional auto features make it all the more likely the driver will semi-switch off to let the car take care of things, IMO.

I can safely say that if my car had the lane assist feature, it would never be used. I'll take care of the steering, thanks.
 








Badger

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Those "mundane tasks" are generally what keeps you alert behind the wheel. Building in these additional auto features make it all the more likely the driver will semi-switch off to let the car take care of things, IMO.

I can safely say that if my car had the lane assist feature, it would never be used. I'll take care of the steering, thanks.
This is a valid point. I was reading something recently about why the standard of driving is so much worse in North America than Europe. A lot of it is because the vast majority of NA drivers use automatics, so they don't give much thought to the actual process of driving.

I guess this just means driving standards will get worse as we all switch to EVs which never have manual gears.
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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I just think it's one of those things where car designers are spending loads of time and money on R&D to achieve something which might initially sound good, but is pointless and in most cases annoying.

More focus on fuel efficiency (and don't fabricate the results this time) would actually make a difference. Lighter batteries on EV's Or just making a car cheaper. This arms race to make cars ever more computerised is my my view, expensive folly.
A lot of it is required to meet new NCAP safety requirements. Loads of the manufacturers can't stand them!
 




Bry Nylon

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Jul 21, 2003
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I rented a Peugeot 308 in France last year and did over 1,000 km in it.... It felt like someone else was driving instead of me, like one of those dreams you get that has a hidden meaning to it!
EXACTLY the same sensation for me when me and a few mates rented a car in France. Just like someone else is driving.

Then after 10 days I realised it was because I was sitting on the right hand side.
 






hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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Those "mundane tasks" are generally what keeps you alert behind the wheel. Building in these additional auto features make it all the more likely the driver will semi-switch off to let the car take care of things, IMO.

I can safely say that if my car had the lane assist feature, it would never be used. I'll take care of the steering, thanks.
I think there is some truth to this, but the steering correction is really not intrusive (on my VW Tiguain, or previous VW Passat, at least) and if you ARE alert and driving more or less in the centre of your lane, then you wouldn't even know the feature was there.

If however you did lose concentration, or heaven forbid doze of for a second, it will drag you back to the centre of the lane and sound a warning. If you are actually meaning to drift across a lane, but didn't bother indicating, it would catch you out, but that's hardly the car's fault! You can over-ride it (without indicating) by making a deliberate adjustment with the wheel.

The car will also sound an alarm, and in an emergency auto-brake if you're at risk of piling into the back of someone, will turn the lights on itself if its getting dark and I haven't, turn the wipers on if it starts raining, and will light up a warning light built into the wing mirror, if something is in the adjacent lane in the blind spot.

Now I hope I'm an alert enough driver to cope just fine without any of those features, but I see no reason to switch any of them off. One day I (any of you) might just be grateful for them.
 


Gabbafella

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Aug 22, 2012
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I managed to crash my car when we had snow a few weeks back and I've been given a Toyota Aygo as a courtesy car. It's so bad, I'm a relatively new driver and have only driven a few cars but I don't know why anyone would make a car this bad.
It has lane centering assist and in my opinion it's a crash waiting to happen on winding roads or anywhere you have to overtake parked cars. If you have to go around a parked car it pulls you back into it's path. I try to remember to turn it off each trip but it's caught me out a couple of times.
Not noticeable on dual carriageways or motorways as indicating disables it I believe, but I hate it.
 


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