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fly high

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I know I posted this before but still seeking an answer. Can anyone explain why it appears (Happy to be corrected) that no main stream newspaper is picking this up

Once again Labour doing what they would roundly condemn the Tories for doing.
 






Chicken Run

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Agreed.

I do wonder how many at Conference would be prepared to hold their noses and vote in favour of the policy as it stands, in an attempt to display a united front.

It's a fascinating dynamic.
If only they hadn’t sniped in opposition eh, as Blair said in his memoir’s, in opposition they spent too much time worrying about the Government eating itself up rather than planning what to do to ensure they didn’t 😂
 


Herr Tubthumper

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I know I posted this before but still seeking an answer. Can anyone explain why it appears (Happy to be corrected) that no main stream newspaper is picking this up

I presume because there’s no evidence to suggest this happened? After all, the link you’ve posted is just a random blog which makes a claim with nothing to back it up.

I’m sure, at the very least, Private Eye will be onto this if there’s something to it, have you checked there?
 






borat

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Jul 16, 2003
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I presume because there’s no evidence to suggest this happened? After all, the link you’ve posted is just a random blog which makes a claim with nothing to back it up.

I’m sure, at the very least, Private Eye will be onto this if there’s something to it, have you checked there?

Here you go


Why should anyone have to check a niche publication like Private Eye for such a story. It should be covered across all ''major publications''
 


cunning fergus

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It's a no win if they have this vote. If they lose then the parlimentary party isn't representing its members and if they win the message is the party has decided that certain pensiores are expendable.
You keep coming back to the lack of political radar here don’t you? Economically speaking the WFA is a 1.5bn issue, is a trifle and it’s certainly not going to fill a £22bn black hole if one exists. I see the FT did an FOI request on the numbers but that got knocked back. If there is no black hole or one not as bad as referenced this policy decision is going to look even worse than it does now. Worse still their political capital with the public will be zero.

The previous lot lost the trust of the public broadly speaking over their tenure in Government by promising to sort out immigration. This lot promised the public orderly Government and the restoration of trust in the institutions of Government yet that is looking iffy in just 3 months.

Once politicians are the object of derision by the public they are finished, this lot are doing in en masse.
 






chip

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You keep coming back to the lack of political radar here don’t you? Economically speaking the WFA is a 1.5bn issue, is a trifle and it’s certainly not going to fill a £22bn black hole if one exists. I see the FT did an FOI request on the numbers but that got knocked back. If there is no black hole or one not as bad as referenced this policy decision is going to look even worse than it does now. Worse still their political capital with the public will be zero.

The previous lot lost the trust of the public broadly speaking over their tenure in Government by promising to sort out immigration. This lot promised the public orderly Government and the restoration of trust in the institutions of Government yet that is looking iffy in just 3 months.

Once politicians are the object of derision by the public they are finished, this lot are doing in en masse.
Yes, I do. I don't think it is a political radar that is needed, the gaffes could have been avoided by most ordinary people. I think the conservatives normalised what most think of entitled, unacceptable and seemingly unaccountable behaviour. I agree with you after the last lot I stupidly hoped for better. I didn't expect them to be better a doing simple things badly.

With a £68K a year photographer for the DPM, at least the pictures will look better despite the subject matter.
 


armchairclubber

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Why should anyone have to check a niche publication like Private Eye for such a story. It should be covered across all ''major publications''

Furthermore Labour are not always accommodating with accredited journalists who may like to investigate things a little deeper.

 






Nobby Cybergoat

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I know I posted this before but still seeking an answer. Can anyone explain why it appears (Happy to be corrected) that no main stream newspaper is picking this up

It has to be one of two things.

1) There is a conspiracy amongst all print and TV news outlets, including GB News, the Daily Mail and the Telegraph not to print anything which could hurt the Labour Party

2) It isn't true
 


fly high

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Nurses reject 5.5% pay rise.

This is no surprise after the rise JDs got & have already said they want another big rise. Consultants will be back for more as will other NHS staff especially HCAs who when I've been in hospitals seem to be the ones doing most of the actual hands on care work.
 






pocketseagull

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It has to be one of two things.

1) There is a conspiracy amongst all print and TV news outlets, including GB News, the Daily Mail and the Telegraph not to print anything which could hurt the Labour Party

2) It isn't true
Thought this looked interesting so had a google and it's on their website


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beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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It has to be one of two things.

1) There is a conspiracy amongst all print and TV news outlets, including GB News, the Daily Mail and the Telegraph not to print anything which could hurt the Labour Party

2) It isn't true
or, 3) lazy journo's dont look into much these days, until someone starts making a fuss. then they'll be all over it like proverbial flys.
it's odd this story flares up now, with only references in the past few days, now Robert Peston on it... just as we have Labour party's conference.
 








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