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Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
Cameron is a joke politician, and certainly no leader. He is little more than a babbling ad-man who bends with the breeze in the face of a Daily Mail society obsessed with their mortgages, knife-crime and Big Brother.

There are politicians with the upper echelons Conservative Party - as there are in Labour - who can stand up and deliver an intelligent point on a given subject, be it economics, the environment, world affairs, health, education etc. Cameron is not one of them. One may agree or disagree with a certain point of view, but one would rather debate with someone like that than a smoothed over smarmpot there to simper at Middle England in order to get votes. Labour had Blair, the Tories have Cameron. Meet the new boss etc.

The proof of that is that in order for Cameron's popularity to go up, all he has to do is basically keep his trap shut.

Labour, equally as as shite, they don't have that smarmpot in their ranks, hence the bad showing in the polls. It's not about politics, it's all about presentation. And Cameron is a triumph of style over content.


Cameron's sppech at the last conference was one of the best political sppeches of all time and made many sensible and saliant points. All you get is they have no policies but they do have policies like the increasing of the inheritance tax band which Labour stole a week after Cameron championed it in his speech.
 




Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
It would be dangerous to release all their policies with two years to run before an election.

I wonder if Gordon regrets not going to the polls when he had a decent chance of putting up a fight. It is going to be very difficult for Labour to turn things round now and I am glad of that. They were stewarding the ship during a period of global economic appreciation, but have little to show for it and certainly no savings.
 


User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
At least Ken Livingston got things done.

He got rid of those shit routemaster buses. I can't believe Boris Johnson made an election issue out of that, the bendy buses are FAR superior. Now everyone is going on about knife crime as the top issue but Johnson is more concerned with a public competition for a bus design to replace bendy buses. Great priorities there. :rolleyes: And now his right hand man has turned out to be a fraudster with a string of sexual allegations against him. It really doesn't bode well as far as I can see.

Ken Livingston wasted money, was often arrogant, but he put his career on the line TWICE - firstly he left the Labour party in order to get elected and then again with regard to his congestion charging policy - and that worked a treat. The buses are MILES better now. And good on him for sticking to his guns over that Nazi security guard comparison. That turd of a journalist had been bugging him unnecessarily for months and frankly had it coming.

And then under Ken we also got the Olympics which required cross party talks, and an awful lot of work. I really hope London comes to its senses next time round and re-elects the bloke. It's not like we're giving him tax raising powers is it?
i for one will never forgive that TURD ken livingstone for inviting that other TURD gerry adams over as his guest at the height of the IRA bombing campaign in london thats how much he loves the place , and you cant compare it to politicians in government talking to them because all he was was the glc leader at the time , it was a propaganda stunt that pissed on the memories of all the people murdered by the IRA scum, as for bendy buses ,they are crap , a faredodgers paradise and theyve killed more people than enough in accidents, and it depends whose figures you want to believe over the congestion charge , i personally dont think its made much difference at all,its not even as if it makes money, typical livingstone, the thing costs more to f***ing administer than it makes , oh i forgot the olympics , thats going to be a roaring success isnt it? and the amount of money that incompetent prick gave away to spurious afro caribbean "community" projects that promptly disappeared into private bank accounts beggars belief. id rather have david brent as mayor than that f***ing shyster.
 


Buttinhams

Be seeing you!
Apr 24, 2008
161
Labour's main hope at the moment is, of course, dear Boris.

The most powerful Tory in the land, currently demonstrating incompetence at a level that matches Gordon Brown. And Boris's excuse? "I'm taking advice from David Cameron".

Yes Boris is a wanker isn't he?

Mayor pledges £60m to tackle London’s empty homes
8 July, 2008

By Kate Ahira

Boris Johnson announces new funding to recycle London’s 84,000 empty homes into affordable housing

A £60m initiative to tackle the problem of London’s high level of empty homes was announced today by the mayor, Boris Johnson.

The scheme aims to help deliver Johnson’s manifesto commitment to reduce long-term empty homes to 1% of London’s total housing stock. The capital at present contains 84,000 empty homes, of which 67,400 are privately owned and 10,000 are council housing.

The new funding will be used to bring back into residential use long-term abandoned properties, derelict buildings and at-risk listed buildings, in order to create additional affordable homes for the capital.

An audit of all abandoned homes is to be commissioned by the Greater London Authority later this year, to provide a resource for regeneration work and a basis for measuring performance.

The new funding was announced at the launch of English Heritage’s Heritage at Risk register, detailing listed buildings at risk of being lost through neglect.

Johnson said: “It is an absurdity that so many properties are empty in London when families are languishing on council housing waiting lists desperately hoping for a home. Empty properties cannot be left to rot and blight local neighbourhoods. I am determined to bring back many more into use to provide the affordable homes Londoners need, particularly if this can also help protect London’s rich architectural heritage.”

What a tosser eh! :nono:
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
Cameron's sppech at the last conference was one of the best political sppeches of all time and made many sensible and saliant points. All you get is they have no policies but they do have policies like the increasing of the inheritance tax band which Labour stole a week after Cameron championed it in his speech.

No, it wasn't.

Cameron doesn't have policies. He has think-tanks and forums for that.

Cameron merely presents them. Well, I'm sure he will do one day.
 




bigc

New member
Jul 5, 2003
5,740
Yes Boris is a wanker isn't he?

Mayor pledges £60m to tackle London’s empty homes
8 July, 2008

By Kate Ahira

Boris Johnson announces new funding to recycle London’s 84,000 empty homes into affordable housing

A £60m initiative to tackle the problem of London’s high level of empty homes was announced today by the mayor, Boris Johnson.

The scheme aims to help deliver Johnson’s manifesto commitment to reduce long-term empty homes to 1% of London’s total housing stock. The capital at present contains 84,000 empty homes, of which 67,400 are privately owned and 10,000 are council housing.

The new funding will be used to bring back into residential use long-term abandoned properties, derelict buildings and at-risk listed buildings, in order to create additional affordable homes for the capital.

An audit of all abandoned homes is to be commissioned by the Greater London Authority later this year, to provide a resource for regeneration work and a basis for measuring performance.

The new funding was announced at the launch of English Heritage’s Heritage at Risk register, detailing listed buildings at risk of being lost through neglect.

Johnson said: “It is an absurdity that so many properties are empty in London when families are languishing on council housing waiting lists desperately hoping for a home. Empty properties cannot be left to rot and blight local neighbourhoods. I am determined to bring back many more into use to provide the affordable homes Londoners need, particularly if this can also help protect London’s rich architectural heritage.”

What a tosser eh! :nono:

Well the man has capitulated and given 400k of TFL money to Porsche...so yes...he is a tosser.
 


Buttinhams

Be seeing you!
Apr 24, 2008
161
Well the man has capitulated and given 400k of TFL money to Porsche...so yes...he is a tosser.

The £400k is lost revenue for something that has not been imposed, not Porsche's legal fees. Ken would have just spunked it up the wall with another all expenses paid jolly for his cronies to Venezuela.

The Mayor said: “I am delighted that we have been able to scrap the £25 charge, which would have hit families and small businesses hardest. I believe the proposal would actually have made congestion worse by allowing thousands of small cars in for free.”
 


bigc

New member
Jul 5, 2003
5,740
The £400k is lost revenue for something that has not been imposed, not Porsche's legal fees. Ken would have just spunked it up the wall with another all expenses paid jolly for his cronies to Venezuela.

The Mayor said: “I am delighted that we have been able to scrap the £25 charge, which would have hit families and small businesses hardest. I believe the proposal would actually have made congestion worse by allowing thousands of small cars in for free.”

It IS for Porsche's legal fees.

Why do families NEED a 4X4 in central london for christ sakes? And the same families that Ken gave their kids free bus travel till 18, if in full time education?

Also, you mention Venezuela? The country that allowed us to have our bus fares cut by 10% last summer! Compared to Brighton, 90p for a bus journey ANYWHERE in London was a good deal under Ken..
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
As somebody who pays Council Tax in Greater London I'd sooner have Boris than that slimey hypocrite Livingstone any day.
 




Ding Dong !

Boy I'm HOT today !
Jul 26, 2004
3,119
Worthing
Time to gives the Tories another bash at running the country. Can't be any worse than the mess Labour have put us in.:rant:
 




mattb

New member
Mar 18, 2008
1,332
Labour were up in todays opinion polls from the Times. Still massively behind, but up.
 


supaseagull

Well-known member
Feb 19, 2004
9,614
The United Kingdom of Mile Oak
as opposed to the lilywhite regime of ken livingstone ?[/QUOTE

You're missing the point with London...The only reason why Livingstone lost the mayoral election was because of voter apathy with Labour...You could have put a hatstand with a blue rosette up for election, it still would have won.

The trouble is with Labour is that they're unfashionable and they've got a bumbling fool as leader who should never have been elected as leader.

Where as the Tories have got Boris Johnson...oh - hold on a minute :dunce:
 


bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
as opposed to the lilywhite regime of ken livingstone ?[/QUOTE

You're missing the point with London...The only reason why Livingstone lost the mayoral election was because of voter apathy with Labour...You could have put a hatstand with a blue rosette up for election, it still would have won.

The trouble is with Labour is that they're unfashionable and they've got a bumbling fool as leader who should never have been elected as leader.

Where as the Tories have got Boris Johnson...oh - hold on a minute :dunce:

You live in London do you ?
 






Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
The proof of that is that in order for Cameron's popularity to go up, all he has to do is basically keep his trap shut.

If he doesn't become a more proficient cyclist he may be toast before the next election.
 


supaseagull

Well-known member
Feb 19, 2004
9,614
The United Kingdom of Mile Oak
The thing is with cameron - and this is what will count against him is this...

Could you picture John Major, Thatcher & Blair standing outside number 10 as PM? The answer is yes.

Can you picture David Cameron standing outside Number 10? Many people would say no...He just doesn't have the substance to become PM.

I would have seriously considered voting Tory at the next election had it not have been for Cameron, however I just don't think he's genuine enough and with great respect to HB&B and Uncle Spielberg and all you other die hard Tories it's the likes of myself who've always voted Labour and who are feeling let down by this government that he needs to appeal to to win an election and unfortunately, he's way short of the mark...

If Gordon Brown resigned tomorrow I honestly don't think that Cameron would win an election...Whilst it's been a long time since the Tories were last in charge, people haven't forgotten that the economy was in a worse state then even to what it is now.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,949
Crap Town
At least Ken Livingston got things done.

He got rid of those shit routemaster buses. I can't believe Boris Johnson made an election issue out of that, the bendy buses are FAR superior. Now everyone is going on about knife crime as the top issue but Johnson is more concerned with a public competition for a bus design to replace bendy buses.
Routemaster buses still run on routes 9 & 15 - mainly for the tourists to know that they are in London , travelling on an iconic bus. The bendy buses carry more passengers than a double decker , have 3 doors to enter/exit but LT must be losing a fortune running them. Londoners know them as the "free" bus because its just so easy to get on without paying. No need to use your oyster card or pre purchased ticket from the machine at the bus stop , hop on and jump off before the inspectors get on. London Transport did their own survey on fare evasion on the bendys which revealed over 70% of passengers travelled without a ticket but privately think it could be nearer to 90%.
 




portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,957
portslade
Don't think it matters who wins...they all make false promises to get in then shaft everybody fleecing them with hidden taxes and so-on
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,949
Crap Town
18 years of the Tories , 11 years of Labour just means 29 years of the same old shit. If Labour had stuck to their socialist principles after winning in 1997 they could have stayed in power for longer than their predecessors instead they just carried on where the Conservatives left off. It doesn't really matter if the Tories win the next election because they will just take over and do the same as the present incumbents.
 


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