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Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
On what evidence do you say that Ince a "much stronger" candidate in all apsects? Has Ince got his UEFA qualification badges? Is Ince more intelligent than Gannon? The answer is clearly no. Anyone who has heard Gannon speak knows he talks very thoughtfully and is an articulate manager. A rare thing.
In any case, what's all the fuss about? It's perfectly reasonable for Gannon to want to talk it over with his family before potentially up rooting them south and to weigh up his options. Remember he only had the interview yesterday.
I think he sounds exactly the sort of man for us. Clever with progressive ideas about training and coaching he's achieved a lot at Stockport with no money. They play attractive football which has got results. It's precisely those attributes which will put bums on seats at Withdean, if he takes the job.

To be honest I have never even heard of Gannon before this. Ince has played at the highest level and been England captain for many years and has a very impressive track record at our level with Macclesfied Town and MK Dons. Gannon is wholely unispiring for me anyway. Jim who ?.
 




The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
To be honest I have never even heard of Gannon before this. Ince has played at the highest level and been England captain for many years and has a very impressive track record at our level with Macclesfied Town and MK Dons. Gannon is wholely unispiring for me anyway. Jim who ?.

Typical of the shallow celebrity culture 'we must have a big name from a big club that the tabloids have heard of' bullshit that stalks this country.

If it can be proved that Ince is better than Gannon at managing Brighton then I'll take that any time, but I will never use someone's playing career as the only marker for judging that. The fact you've never heard of him is your issue, not the club's.
 


Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
PIPE DOWN ALAN :angry:
 


To be honest I have never even heard of Gannon before this. Ince has played at the highest level and been England captain for many years and has a very impressive track record at our level with Macclesfied Town and MK Dons. Gannon is wholely unispiring for me anyway. Jim who ?.

That logic is horrifically flawed.

Ince saved Macclesfield from relegation in half a season, then spent the biggest budget in the division getting MK Dons promoted, all in the League below us.
Gannon saved Stockport from relegation in half a season, then got them promoted on a much lesser budget, all in the League below us.

How can you say one has a very impressive track record at our level and one doesn't? As TLO says, you have been solely influenced by the fact that he's a 'celebrity'. Let's get Danny Dyer in, he's a celebrity, and he's well 'ard, I bet he'd sort our team out.
 


Behind Enemy Lines

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2003
4,887
London
To be honest I have never even heard of Gannon before this. Ince has played at the highest level and been England captain for many years and has a very impressive track record at our level with Macclesfied Town and MK Dons. Gannon is wholely unispiring for me anyway. Jim who ?.
Yes he kept Macclesfield up and did well at MK Dons having wads of cash to spend. Not so well at Blackburn. For me the jury's very much out on him. He may well go onto to be good manager but just because he played " at the highest level" doesn't mean he will. Bryan Robson? John Barnes, Tony Adams? All top players and played in World Cups, but can they manage? Not many would say yes. The two just don't add up.
For me, Ince represents a thoughtless "blood and thunder" approach to the game which has typified and held the British game back for years. It is unthoughtful and belongs in the past. We've just had the hapless " keep the faith" approach under Adams so it's time for someone with a modern, intelligent approach to the game. I think Gannon is that man.
 






Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,983
Surrey
US, before you go on another of your silly rants about how people oppose your point of view just because it's you, that's not actually the case here. I think the problem is your summisation that Ince is a "much stronger" candidate - that bit is complete bollocks.

(Personally, I think they could both do reasonably well here but I'd rather have Gannon)
 






Twinkle Toes

Growing old disgracefully
Apr 4, 2008
11,138
Hoveside
I think ol' Dickie is in a bit of a no-win situation tbh. If he said nowt, he be criticised for keeping us in the dark: & because he's spilled-the-haricots, he's "shown his hand too soon"... :shrug:
 


acrossthepond

Active member
Jan 30, 2006
1,233
Ruritania
To be honest I have never even heard of Gannon before this. Ince has played at the highest level and been England captain for many years and has a very impressive track record at our level with Macclesfied Town and MK Dons. Gannon is wholely unispiring for me anyway. Jim who ?.

Whereas Alex Ferguson, Sven Goran Ericcson, Jose Mourinho, Arsene Wenger, David Moyes, Roy Hodgson, etc etc are all well known for their footballing exploits?

Do you want to be inspired, or do you want the team to win playing attractive football....?
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

We've come a long long way together
NSC Patron
Nov 12, 2006
16,741
Near Dorchester, Dorset
Yes he kept Macclesfield up and did well at MK Dons having wads of cash to spend. Not so well at Blackburn. For me the jury's very much out on him. He may well go onto to be good manager but just because he played " at the highest level" doesn't mean he will. Bryan Robson? John Barnes, Tony Adams? All top players and played in World Cups, but can they manage? Not many would say yes. The two just don't add up.
For me, Ince represents a thoughtless "blood and thunder" approach to the game which has typified and held the British game back for years. It is unthoughtful and belongs in the past. We've just had the hapless " keep the faith" approach under Adams so it's time for someone with a modern, intelligent approach to the game. I think Gannon is that man.

Totally agree with this. Well put that man.
 




seagull_special

Well-known member
Jun 9, 2008
3,008
Abu Dhabi
Yes he kept Macclesfield up and did well at MK Dons having wads of cash to spend. Not so well at Blackburn. For me the jury's very much out on him. He may well go onto to be good manager but just because he played " at the highest level" doesn't mean he will. Bryan Robson? John Barnes, Tony Adams? All top players and played in World Cups, but can they manage? Not many would say yes. The two just don't add up.
For me, Ince represents a thoughtless "blood and thunder" approach to the game which has typified and held the British game back for years. It is unthoughtful and belongs in the past. We've just had the hapless " keep the faith" approach under Adams so it's time for someone with a modern, intelligent approach to the game. I think Gannon is that man.
Excellent post , there are a number of managers out there who I feel represent a new wave , Grayson, Boothroyd and Gannon, who were never top players but have a level of intelligence and great planning skills that can develop clubs at our level. I feel that Ince is a blood and thunder style of manager who would rely on motivational skills and bollockings. My choice is Gannon but I wouldn't be dissapointed with Bothroyd following the job he did at Watford, I would also love to see Dean Saunders or Teddy Sherrringham as manager.
 


Rusthall Seagull

New member
Jul 16, 2003
2,119
Tunbridge wells
Hopefully Gannon will turn it own and we can get the Gov'nor in. We don't want someone else fannying around undecided. If Gannon wants it he shut accept it NOW. There should be a time limit. If you went for a job and was offerd it and said " I will think about it and let you know when I am ready " you would be told to f*ck off in no uncertain terms.I am praying Gannon turns it down as HE IS NOT the man for BHAFC. It is a weak and very dissapointing potential appointment. Its hardly likely to get seats on bums. We need Paul Ince. A much stronger candidate in all respects.


which just goes to show how little you know about football......
 


Rusthall Seagull

New member
Jul 16, 2003
2,119
Tunbridge wells
On what evidence do you say that Ince a "much stronger" candidate in all apsects? Has Ince got his UEFA qualification badges? Is Ince more intelligent than Gannon? The answer is clearly no. Anyone who has heard Gannon speak knows he talks very thoughtfully and is an articulate manager. A rare thing.
In any case, what's all the fuss about? It's perfectly reasonable for Gannon to want to talk it over with his family before potentially up rooting them south and to weigh up his options. Remember he only had the interview yesterday.
I think he sounds exactly the sort of man for us. Clever with progressive ideas about training and coaching he's achieved a lot at Stockport with no money. They play attractive football which has got results. It's precisely those attributes which will put bums on seats at Withdean, if he takes the job.

please stop talking sense....
 




Rusthall Seagull

New member
Jul 16, 2003
2,119
Tunbridge wells
To be honest I have never even heard of Gannon before this. Ince has played at the highest level and been England captain for many years and has a very impressive track record at our level with Macclesfied Town and MK Dons. Gannon is wholely unispiring for me anyway. Jim who ?.

Jim Gannon - next BHA manager
 




Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
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Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
I really hate to bring this up..again..US but you wanted Tony Adams instead of Mark McGhee at the time and you know how you warmed to McGhee and what a complete twonk of a manager Tony Adams has become. I'm sure if Gannon gets the job and gets us playing decent football again you will be won round. Gannon ticks all the right boxes to manage us imo
 


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