[Albion] Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall **Singed for Chelsea 02/07/2024**

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Leicester have as much as a chance of achievig top 10 as us next season. Our chance of signing him came and went in January.

Not if they start the season with a points deduction, to avoid that they may have to sell a couple of their current best players before the end of June. Either scenario (points deduction or selling players) seriously weakens them and makes their chances of establishing themselves in the PL a lot harder.

 

[Stat Brother]

Not if they start the season with a points deduction, to avoid that they may have to sell a couple of their current best players before the end of June. Either scenario (points deduction or selling players) seriously weakens them and makes their chances of establishing themselves in the PL a lot harder.

I'm assuming they can sell at the end of the season, then spend like idiots before the new one starts.

 

[peterward]

Not if they start the season with a points deduction, to avoid that they may have to sell a couple of their current best players before the end of June. Either scenario (points deduction or selling players) seriously weakens them and makes their chances of establishing themselves in the PL a lot harder.

Not exactly. The sanction and potential deduction is against past FFP shortfall.

If they sell couple of good players, to plug that hole and comply with FFP prior to June 30 and thus avoid sanction, they can then go out and buy similar level of player on July first or later, leveraging debt against the huge extra revenue that is coming their way from PL TV money.

If that causes further loss it would not be for the same period as the previous that needs resolving by June 30.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Not exactly. The sanction and potential deduction is against past FFP shortfall.

If they sell couple of good players, to plug that hole and comply with FFP prior to June 30 and thus avoid sanction, they can then go out and buy similar level of player on July first or later, leveraging debt against the huge extra revenue that is coming their way from PL TV money.

If that causes further loss it would not be for the same period as the previous that needs resolving by June 30.

Maybe we could buy him for £30m on June 30th and sell him back the next day for £40m

 

[Deadly Danson]

I'm assuming they can sell at the end of the season, then spend like idiots before the new one starts.

Can we buy him for £25m in June and sell him back to Leicester for £40m in July?

 

[Deadly Danson]

Maybe we could buy him for £30m on June 30th and sell him back the next day for £40m

Great minds...

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Not exactly. The sanction and potential deduction is against past FFP shortfall.

If they sell couple of good players, to plug that hole and comply with FFP prior to June 30 and thus avoid sanction, they can then go out and buy similar level of player on July first or later, leveraging debt against the huge extra revenue that is coming their way from PL TV money.

If that causes further loss it would not be for the same period as the previous that needs resolving by June 30.

Yes but if they've sold a few of their best players, then they are starting even further behind when it comes to squad strengthening. Not only do they need to improve their squad they need to find replacements for whoever they sell. I'm not saying they won't have the money to get new players in, however they would be starting recruitment from a point where the squad is worse than it is now which means they will need more bodies in and increases the risk when it comes to transfers now working out etc. Making the chances of them reaching/challenging for the top 10 even more of a task and certainly more unlikely than us being able to reach that level again next season.

If they don't sell and take the points hit that means a likely relegation battle all season, which could make potential signings look elsewhere.

 

[peterward]

Leicester now being charged.

Leicester City: Premier League charges Championship club with alleged breaches of financial rules

Leicester City are charged by the Premier League with allegedly breaking spending rules during their last three seasons in the top flight.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not sure if thus may make his sale more or less likely?

Maybe less if they're going to get done anyway?

 

[dazzer6666]

Not exactly. The sanction and potential deduction is against past FFP shortfall.

If they sell couple of good players, to plug that hole and comply with FFP prior to June 30 and thus avoid sanction, they can then go out and buy similar level of player on July first or later, leveraging debt against the huge extra revenue that is coming their way from PL TV money.

If that causes further loss it would not be for the same period as the previous that needs resolving by June 30.

The rules cover a 3 year rolling period, so they wouldn’t be able to do that either.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Leicester now being charged.

Leicester City: Premier League charges Championship club with alleged breaches of financial rules

Leicester City are charged by the Premier League with allegedly breaking spending rules during their last three seasons in the top flight.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not sure if thus may make his sale more or less likely?

Maybe less if they're going to get done anyway?

It only changes things if Leicester carry out their threats from last night and sue the FA, the Premier League, the EFL and anyone else who stands in their way. They are clearly very angry that cheats can’t prosper having cheated their way to promotion a decade ago or so.

The KDH sale was/will be to balance the books for the three year period to 23/24 (ending June 30th).

These current chargers relate to a breach for the 3 year period to 22/23.

Perhaps the threat of two points deductions in a year (both falling in next season) will make them sell their best player(s) in June. That’s what we do to balance our books!

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Perhaps the threat of two points deductions in a year (both falling in next season) will make them sell their best player(s) in June.

I think they will. Both to stave off future points deductions and try to convince the authorities that they are belatedly taking this seriously

 

[Flounce]

Not that TB would ever do it but 2 to 6 points is easily recoverable if you spend big to buy the best players out there. It’s a shite and pretty ineffective punishment. City and Chelsea will be laughing if they eventually end up with a six point deduction given what they’ve won with their cheating over the years.

Relegation by 1 to 3 divisions would be my preference.

 

[Albion Robster]

I would not be surprised if we agree a deal before the opening of the summer transfer window.
Just like the Joao Pedro transfer last season.

 

[JBizzle]

I would not be surprised if we agree a deal before the opening of the summer transfer window.
Just like the Joao Pedro transfer last season.

I think the difference was that Watford had nothing to play for, so announcing the Pedro sale with games left would have had little impact on their overall league position. Leicester are fighting for promotion, and even if a deal is agreed, I can't see them announcing a sale until their campaign is sealed

 

[Commander]

Not that TB would ever do it but 2 to 6 points is easily recoverable if you spend big to buy the best players out there. It’s a shite and pretty ineffective punishment. City and Chelsea will be laughing if they eventually end up with a six point deduction given what they’ve won with their cheating over the years.

Relegation by 1 to 3 divisions would be my preference.

The problem with relegation is it completely screws over the 2nd and 3rd best team in the division they get relegated to. The year we went up to the Premier League, if Man City had been relegated as punishment the year before, we'd have presumably finished 3rd and gone into the play-offs, instead of securing the promotion that the whole plan was aimed at. We could easily have then not gone up, lost the likes of Murray and Knockaert etc that Summer and then slipped back down to being a mid-table club, and had to start the whole 5 year plan again.

 

[maltaseagull]

Be funny if Leicester had their promotion voided by a points deduction bearing in mind how they blew a hole in FFP last time they went up.

I don´t understand how they got away with that, once they were back in the EFL.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Cannot see KDH being enamoured at the prospect of leaving Leicester for us.

 

[Albion Robster]

I think the difference was that Watford had nothing to play for, so announcing the Pedro sale with games left would have had little impact on their overall league position. Leicester are fighting for promotion, and even if a deal is agreed, I can't see them announcing a sale until their campaign is sealed

What I said was 'before the opening of the summer transfer window'. I did not say a deal would be communicated before the end of the Championship season.
The window opens on the 14th June and the Championship Playoff Final is on the 26th May. So gives a couple of weeks post season for deals to be negiogated and communicated. It would be lunacy for Leicester to agree and communicate a transfer of one of their key players before the end of the season, their fans would be up in arms selling players to little ole Brighton & Hove Albion.

 

[Commander]

Cannot see KDH being enamoured at the prospect of leaving Leicester for us.

Depends on what the alternative is. Playing for a club challenging for Europe compared to one starting with a points deduction in a relegation battle sounds alright to me.

 

[dazzer6666]

The problem with relegation is it completely screws over the 2nd and 3rd best team in the division they get relegated to. The year we went up to the Premier League, if Man City had been relegated as punishment the year before, we'd have presumably finished 3rd and gone into the play-offs, instead of securing the promotion that the whole plan was aimed at. We could easily have then not gone up, lost the likes of Murray and Knockaert etc that Summer and then slipped back down to being a mid-table club, and had to start the whole 5 year plan again.

….or had more of an incentive not to play the last 3 games while pissed.