Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Didn't supply what they offered = no poppy. (See thread on complaining/restaurants etc ).
Just how awful is this government? June 2020 edition
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Didn't supply what they offered = no poppy. (See thread on complaining/restaurants etc ).
Randy McNob
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they've mugged you right off
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Several letters of No Confidence (rumoured to be anything between 12 and 20 odd) being handed into the 1922 committee.
I wonder what the final straw was, for some?
I wonder what the final straw was, for some?
nicko31
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Buyers remorse setting in
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
On the subject of Nadine Dorries (who voted against Theresa May's Brexit deal, because it didn't give us any MEPs in Brussels!!) this is why she is so dim (as well as the above claim about Channel 4)
Just to comment on the public schoolboy tweet, her daughters went to the same school as James.
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Just to comment on the public schoolboy tweet, her daughters went to the same school as James.
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Garry Nelson's teacher
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Every now and then you wonder if this mob could get any worse. And then they do. No-one could argue that this is a government that doesn't deliver. It's what they deliver that's the problem.
Randy McNob
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A definitive list of the worst Tory U-turns in less than two years
The Tories have experienced a difficult week in politics and that's saying something, as they seldom have a good one.
It was so confusing it even had the Daily Mail scratching their heads, asking, 'Is anybody in charge at No10?'.
To re-cap. In a flagrant display of either not giving a f*** or just being blind to the optics, the Tories rallied around and saved their mate, Owen Paterson, from suspension, only to U-turn on the decision. Paterson quit anyway, farewelling the "cruel world of politics", the very-same cruel world whose required standards he'd been found guilty of making an absolute mockery of.
Boris Johnson's manoeuvring Wednesday to save Paterson was likened to "legalised corruption". Thursday's climbdown, well, that's perhaps another classic move in the Tories' playbook.
Here are a few - well, 13 - of their more recent flip-flops to give you a little context (we've helpfully, kept them in date order so you don't lose track).
1) November 2021: “Egregious” lobbyist saved
On Thursday, the government was forced into a humiliating climbdown over a decision not to suspend "egregious" lobbyist, Tory MP Owen Paterson.
Following 24 hours of public backlash, the government abandoned plans to create a Tory-dominated standards Committee.
On Thursday, Tory MPs were furious to discover the PM Prime had withdrawn his support for Paterson, less than 24-hours after ordering them to support a controversial anti-sleaze amendment to protect him.
By Friday morning, a Cabinet Minister was forced to apologise for the government's attempt to rewrite the rules on sleaze.
Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi, backtracking, said it was the "grown-up thing to do".
2) October 2021: You can't catch covid from your mates
On 21 October, Jacob Rees-Mogg announced a “convivial, fraternal spirit” negated a need for MPs to wear masks in the House of Commons.
Three days ago Speaker of the House, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, told MPs and Peers they should in fact be wearing face coverings.
3) September 2021: You will absolutely need - I mean not need - Vaccine Passports
At the start of September, then-vaccines Minister Nadhim Zahawi set out plans to introduce Covid passports in high-risk venues.
Days later, Health Secretary Sajid Javid vetoed the plans.
4) September 2021: The party of no tax rises, raises tax
The Tory Government was elected in 2019 on a manifesto pledge not to raise taxes.
In September, they broke their promise and announced National Insurance would rise by 1.25 percentage points from April 2022.
It is expected that graduates in the UK will be hit with a 50% tax rate on any additional money they are paid by their employers.
5) July 2021: What are the rules on self-isolation?
In July, it was reported that Sajid Javid had tested positive for Coronavirus, meaning Johnson and Sunak had been exposed to the virus.
In line with government guidance, the two would be expected to quarantine.
However, fortuitously, the pair has been selected to take part in a pilot scheme that would have allowed them to continue working.
Bizarrely, no one else in the country had ever heard of such a scheme.
The government quickly u-turned, and both Chancellor and Prime Minister were forced into self-isolation
6) June 2021: Kissing could spread Coronavirus unless you are the Health Secretary
Leaked footage of the Health Secretary canoodling with his aide took the internet by storm.
The rendezvous had been captured in May, while indoor hugging was still banned under government guidance.
Ministers leaped to Hancock’s defence, but the government was eventually forced to concede the pictures weren’t great for national morale.
Hancock resigned as Health Secretary.
7) January 2021: Go to school, don’t go to school
On January 4, millions of children returned to school under guidance from the Education Secretary that classrooms were safe.
That evening, the Prime Minister announced that English schools and colleges would close as part of a new national lockdown.
8) December 2020: Deck the Halls will spores of the virus
“We don’t want to ban Christmas, to cancel it, and I think that would be frankly inhuman and against the instincts of many people in this country,” Johnson promised.
Four days later, Christmas was cancelled.
Last month it was alleged a friend of Johnson’s wife, Carrie Johnson spent Christmas in Downing Street. London was under strict Tier 4 restrictions in November, meaning there was a ban on indoor visitors aside from support bubbles.
It’s possible Johnson broke his own restrictions.
9) October 2020: We will absolutely not be locking down again
In a move that enraged his Scientific advisors, Johnson resisted calls for a “circuit breaker” lockdown, promising the UK there would not be a second lockdown.
Two weeks later, we were in one.
10) September 2020: Go to work, don’t go to work
At the start of September, the government launched a campaign to get people back into the office.
Employers were asked to reassure staff it was safe to return to work, encouraging covid-safe measures including social distancing and good hygiene.
Three weeks later, then-cabinet secretary Michael Gove was forced into an embarrassing U-turn, conceding the advice was a change in Government guidance.
11) June 2020: Government admits it should feed hungry children
Mid-pandemic, the government announced it would not be extending its free school meals programme throughout the summer holidays.
The voucher scheme, worth £15 a week to recipients, was introduced to help poorer families eligible for free school meals feed their children during lockdown.
The government was forced into an embarrassing climbdown after Manchester United Player Marcus Rashford launched a campaign to reinstate the vouchers.
Despite the U-turn, in October some tory MPs were still arguing against providing the vouchers. Tory MP Mark Jenkinson said: “I know in my constituency that, as tiny a minority as it might be, food parcels are sold or traded for drugs.”
Another Tory, Ben Bradley, in a now-deleted tweet, said: “At one school in Mansfield 75% of kids have a social worker, 25% of parents are illiterate. Their estate is the centre of the area’s crime. One kid lives in a crack den, another in a brothel. These are the kids that most need our help, extending FSM doesn’t reach these kids.”
There is no tangible evidence for either claim.
12) July 2020: Face masks absolutely do not work, or maybe they do
The government and its SAGE advisors spent a good few months deriding the value of wearing masks.
As late as June 2020, Hancock was negating their mandatory use in shops.
The following month the government announced face coverings would be made compulsory in a number of settings, including in shops and public transport.
The messaging became even further confused after Gove was spotted in a Pret-a-Manger with no mask on.
13) March 2020: There is absolutely no need to do mass community testing
Early on in the pandemic, the government vetoed plans to continue mass coronavirus testing, despite advice the World Health Organisation expressly advising that it was vital.
Shortly thereafter, Hancock announced a screeching U-turn, embarking on a mission to convince the country to stick swabs up their noses.
The Tories have experienced a difficult week in politics and that's saying something, as they seldom have a good one.
It was so confusing it even had the Daily Mail scratching their heads, asking, 'Is anybody in charge at No10?'.
To re-cap. In a flagrant display of either not giving a f*** or just being blind to the optics, the Tories rallied around and saved their mate, Owen Paterson, from suspension, only to U-turn on the decision. Paterson quit anyway, farewelling the "cruel world of politics", the very-same cruel world whose required standards he'd been found guilty of making an absolute mockery of.
Boris Johnson's manoeuvring Wednesday to save Paterson was likened to "legalised corruption". Thursday's climbdown, well, that's perhaps another classic move in the Tories' playbook.
Here are a few - well, 13 - of their more recent flip-flops to give you a little context (we've helpfully, kept them in date order so you don't lose track).
1) November 2021: “Egregious” lobbyist saved
On Thursday, the government was forced into a humiliating climbdown over a decision not to suspend "egregious" lobbyist, Tory MP Owen Paterson.
Following 24 hours of public backlash, the government abandoned plans to create a Tory-dominated standards Committee.
On Thursday, Tory MPs were furious to discover the PM Prime had withdrawn his support for Paterson, less than 24-hours after ordering them to support a controversial anti-sleaze amendment to protect him.
By Friday morning, a Cabinet Minister was forced to apologise for the government's attempt to rewrite the rules on sleaze.
Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi, backtracking, said it was the "grown-up thing to do".
2) October 2021: You can't catch covid from your mates
On 21 October, Jacob Rees-Mogg announced a “convivial, fraternal spirit” negated a need for MPs to wear masks in the House of Commons.
Three days ago Speaker of the House, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, told MPs and Peers they should in fact be wearing face coverings.
3) September 2021: You will absolutely need - I mean not need - Vaccine Passports
At the start of September, then-vaccines Minister Nadhim Zahawi set out plans to introduce Covid passports in high-risk venues.
Days later, Health Secretary Sajid Javid vetoed the plans.
4) September 2021: The party of no tax rises, raises tax
The Tory Government was elected in 2019 on a manifesto pledge not to raise taxes.
In September, they broke their promise and announced National Insurance would rise by 1.25 percentage points from April 2022.
It is expected that graduates in the UK will be hit with a 50% tax rate on any additional money they are paid by their employers.
5) July 2021: What are the rules on self-isolation?
In July, it was reported that Sajid Javid had tested positive for Coronavirus, meaning Johnson and Sunak had been exposed to the virus.
In line with government guidance, the two would be expected to quarantine.
However, fortuitously, the pair has been selected to take part in a pilot scheme that would have allowed them to continue working.
Bizarrely, no one else in the country had ever heard of such a scheme.
The government quickly u-turned, and both Chancellor and Prime Minister were forced into self-isolation
6) June 2021: Kissing could spread Coronavirus unless you are the Health Secretary
Leaked footage of the Health Secretary canoodling with his aide took the internet by storm.
The rendezvous had been captured in May, while indoor hugging was still banned under government guidance.
Ministers leaped to Hancock’s defence, but the government was eventually forced to concede the pictures weren’t great for national morale.
Hancock resigned as Health Secretary.
7) January 2021: Go to school, don’t go to school
On January 4, millions of children returned to school under guidance from the Education Secretary that classrooms were safe.
That evening, the Prime Minister announced that English schools and colleges would close as part of a new national lockdown.
8) December 2020: Deck the Halls will spores of the virus
“We don’t want to ban Christmas, to cancel it, and I think that would be frankly inhuman and against the instincts of many people in this country,” Johnson promised.
Four days later, Christmas was cancelled.
Last month it was alleged a friend of Johnson’s wife, Carrie Johnson spent Christmas in Downing Street. London was under strict Tier 4 restrictions in November, meaning there was a ban on indoor visitors aside from support bubbles.
It’s possible Johnson broke his own restrictions.
9) October 2020: We will absolutely not be locking down again
In a move that enraged his Scientific advisors, Johnson resisted calls for a “circuit breaker” lockdown, promising the UK there would not be a second lockdown.
Two weeks later, we were in one.
10) September 2020: Go to work, don’t go to work
At the start of September, the government launched a campaign to get people back into the office.
Employers were asked to reassure staff it was safe to return to work, encouraging covid-safe measures including social distancing and good hygiene.
Three weeks later, then-cabinet secretary Michael Gove was forced into an embarrassing U-turn, conceding the advice was a change in Government guidance.
11) June 2020: Government admits it should feed hungry children
Mid-pandemic, the government announced it would not be extending its free school meals programme throughout the summer holidays.
The voucher scheme, worth £15 a week to recipients, was introduced to help poorer families eligible for free school meals feed their children during lockdown.
The government was forced into an embarrassing climbdown after Manchester United Player Marcus Rashford launched a campaign to reinstate the vouchers.
Despite the U-turn, in October some tory MPs were still arguing against providing the vouchers. Tory MP Mark Jenkinson said: “I know in my constituency that, as tiny a minority as it might be, food parcels are sold or traded for drugs.”
Another Tory, Ben Bradley, in a now-deleted tweet, said: “At one school in Mansfield 75% of kids have a social worker, 25% of parents are illiterate. Their estate is the centre of the area’s crime. One kid lives in a crack den, another in a brothel. These are the kids that most need our help, extending FSM doesn’t reach these kids.”
There is no tangible evidence for either claim.
12) July 2020: Face masks absolutely do not work, or maybe they do
The government and its SAGE advisors spent a good few months deriding the value of wearing masks.
As late as June 2020, Hancock was negating their mandatory use in shops.
The following month the government announced face coverings would be made compulsory in a number of settings, including in shops and public transport.
The messaging became even further confused after Gove was spotted in a Pret-a-Manger with no mask on.
13) March 2020: There is absolutely no need to do mass community testing
Early on in the pandemic, the government vetoed plans to continue mass coronavirus testing, despite advice the World Health Organisation expressly advising that it was vital.
Shortly thereafter, Hancock announced a screeching U-turn, embarking on a mission to convince the country to stick swabs up their noses.
Garry Nelson's teacher
Well-known member
Agree: it's important that we don't forget - nor forgive - any of this stuff. But for me the abiding image will be a the Spaffer smugly proclaiming that he was proud to have shaken hands with those in hospital just as the outbreak was taking hold and against all medical advice. Who did he think he was - Princess Di with AIDS victims?
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nicko31
Well-known member
And after catching covid and nearly dying he proceeded just months later to declare "let the bodies pile high". Make no mistake he doesn't care about anyone but himself
nicko31
Well-known member
The UK (for now while it still exists) is sleepwalking into police state territory.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...oned-51-weeks-protesting-britain-police-state
The days of lecturing other countries are over. We're turning into a pound shop version of Singapore-On-Thames
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...oned-51-weeks-protesting-britain-police-state
The days of lecturing other countries are over. We're turning into a pound shop version of Singapore-On-Thames
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nicko31
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Pretty standard stuff, one rule for one.....
Families' fury at Boris Johnson's 'sickening' boozy lockdown Christmas parties scandal
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/families-fury-boris-johnsons-sickening-25594927
Families' fury at Boris Johnson's 'sickening' boozy lockdown Christmas parties scandal
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/families-fury-boris-johnsons-sickening-25594927
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