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[TV] Jimmy Savile A British Horror Story (Netflix)



clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,876
Savile didn’t fool everybody.
He just had a wide range of friends in high places who protected him.

It makes a nice conspiracy theory, but there is little to no evidence that he did.

What he did on a number of occasions is imply that there was and this in turn may have stopped people reporting him.

He was a very very clever and sadistic sex offender living a mostly solitary life.

He repeated the same creepy lines about young girls time and time again, but many people thought he was secretly gay and using those lines to (paradoxically) put people off the scent.

But he knew that.

He'd "perfected" the act after many many years. Everything he did in public was facilitating what he was doing in private and he got away with it.

He didn't need anyone to protect him.
 
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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
No lessons have been learned. The victim in the Imran Ahmad Khan case, warned the Conservatives when he was put up for the Tory candidate in Wakefield, but was ignored.
The victim then had the courage to go to the police.

Edited to add the link

[tweet]1513545048851374081[/tweet]
 
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Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,335
Brighton factually.....
Watched both episodes last night, some have said the programme was just re hashed interviews with nothing new to add.
Well that it might be, but the way it was put together i thought was very good, just how could no one have known, many say.
Well, they did, and that is the main thrust of the two programmes, and to make sure we try and not let this happen again on any scale.

“I remember when I lived with my gran watching Jim I’ll fix it and she made me switch it off, saying there’s something wrong about him, your not watching it, that was in 1976”

I have posted before about my brush with “things” at a foster home, by someone in a position of trust and power, that was in about 75 and I have never told anyone in my family ever, I’ve hinted, but ultimately don’t want to burden them with guilt, or compassion as it’s not theirs to carry, just the guilty person, who is no doubt dead now.
Evil.

I often used to wonder how gran could tell something was wrong with Saville and no one knew about what happened to me, but I only found out recently when a family member recently passed away and something was said at the wake, she fought tooth and nail to get me out of that place, even though she was very ill and I went to live with her for a few years. Perhaps she knew, people get vibes, those are to be trusted sometimes.

Question everyone and everything
 


herecomesaregular

We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Oct 27, 2008
4,650
Still in Brighton
It makes a nice conspiracy theory, but there is little to no evidence that he did.

What he did on a number of occasions is imply that there was and this in turn may have stopped people reporting him.

He was a very very clever and sadistic sex offender living a mostly solitary life.

He repeated the same creepy lines about young girls time and time again, but many people thought he was secretly gay and using those lines to (paradoxically) put people off the scent.

But he knew that.

He'd "perfected" the act after many many years. Everything he did in public was facilitating what he was doing in private and he got away with it.

He didn't need anyone to protect him.

I tend to go with this. I was born in the early 70s and never wrote to him, I was always creeped out by him even back then. As I got older I always felt he was a weird, creepy closet homosexual (note - I am not implying all homosexuals are weird and creepy here btw) and in retrospect see that was part of his "tricky" distraction in plain sight act. A very dangerous man protected by old attitudes and celebrity status. I found the old tv footage from the doc interesting (as obviously everything featuring him has been taken off air since) plus his revelation "it's better to be tricky than clever" but nothing else that revealing. In some ways it fits in with changing attitudes: in the old days someone like him was seen as just a bit "eccentric" and nowadays seen as actually mentally unwell and/or disturbed/disturbing.
 


rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
4,988
No lessons have been learned. The victim in the Imran Ahmad Khan case, warned the Conservatives when he was put up for the Tory candidate in Wakefield, but was ignored.
The victim then had the courage to go to the police.

Edited to add the link

[tweet]1513545048851374081[/tweet]

And now we have one of his Tory MP pals claiming the conviction of the rapist was a "miscarriage of justice" and an "international scandal".

Great times we live in eh?
 




sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
It makes a nice conspiracy theory, but there is little to no evidence that he did.

What he did on a number of occasions is imply that there was and this in turn may have stopped people reporting him.

He was a very very clever and sadistic sex offender living a mostly solitary life.

He repeated the same creepy lines about young girls time and time again, but many people thought he was secretly gay and using those lines to (paradoxically) put people off the scent.

But he knew that.

He'd "perfected" the act after many many years. Everything he did in public was facilitating what he was doing in private and he got away with it.

He didn't need anyone to protect him.

just watched it , what a weird , weird character he was ....socipathic , possibly mildly bipolar but bloody hell he had them all fooled , no doubt he would have had a few well placed cohorts to watch his back but yeah , looking back on it you'd have to ask yourself how the flip did he get away with it , an extremely forceful , confident , strange and no doubt scary character to be around , especially for all those young , disadvantaged girls , another blot on the copy book of the West Yorkshire Constabulary , what a charming bunch they must have been.

no mention of the orphanage in the channel isles where they found all the bodies of young kids where he was "supposed" to have visited.....maybe BS but he did enough...the c@nt.
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,453
Sussex by the Sea
Coogan possibly appearing as the monster soon.

https://news.sky.com/story/jimmy-savile-victim-groped-on-tv-fears-steve-coogan-will-struggle-playing-monster-as-bbc-drama-faces-calls-to-be-axed-12612051

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amexer

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2011
6,832
To me just seems an odd subject for a Drama. Apart from initially seeing how he plays Saville can't see why anybody would want to watch it
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,453
Sussex by the Sea
Pretty sure no one is looking forward to the BBC’s Jimmy Savile drama, The Reckoning.

The four-part series will trace the life of the reviled predator Savile, a man who, for decades, became one of the UK’s most influential celebrities. Savile used his involvement in multiple organisations, such as the BBC, hospitals, prisons, and charities, to legitimise himself, forging friendships in showbusiness, politics, journalism, the Catholic Church and even the Royal family to cement his position.

Steve Coogan will portray Savile in the series. The drama’s cast will also include Gemma Jones, Siobhan Finneran, Mark Lewis Jones and Mark Stanley.

The BBC says the series will (finally) air this autumn.

js1.jpg
 


Live by the sea

Well-known member
Oct 21, 2016
4,718
Watched both episodes last night, some have said the programme was just re hashed interviews with nothing new to add.
Well that it might be, but the way it was put together i thought was very good, just how could no one have known, many say.
Well, they did, and that is the main thrust of the two programmes, and to make sure we try and not let this happen again on any scale.

“I remember when I lived with my gran watching Jim I’ll fix it and she made me switch it off, saying there’s something wrong about him, your not watching it, that was in 1976”

I have posted before about my brush with “things” at a foster home, by someone in a position of trust and power, that was in about 75 and I have never told anyone in my family ever, I’ve hinted, but ultimately don’t want to burden them with guilt, or compassion as it’s not theirs to carry, just the guilty person, who is no doubt dead now.
Evil.

I often used to wonder how gran could tell something was wrong with Saville and no one knew about what happened to me, but I only found out recently when a family member recently passed away and something was said at the wake, she fought tooth and nail to get me out of that place, even though she was very ill and I went to live with her for a few years. Perhaps she knew, people get vibes, those are to be trusted sometimes.

Question everyone and everything
Grandmothers are usually right .
 






Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,262
To me just seems an odd subject for a Drama. Apart from initially seeing how he plays Saville can't see why anybody would want to watch it
I’ll be honest, I’m pretty curious. I’d basically like to understand man’s inhumanity to man. Then make a programme about it.
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,453
Sussex by the Sea
Pretty sure no one is looking forward to the BBC’s Jimmy Savile drama, The Reckoning.

The four-part series will trace the life of the reviled predator Savile, a man who, for decades, became one of the UK’s most influential celebrities. Savile used his involvement in multiple organisations, such as the BBC, hospitals, prisons, and charities, to legitimise himself, forging friendships in showbusiness, politics, journalism, the Catholic Church and even the Royal family to cement his position.

Steve Coogan will portray Savile in the series. The drama’s cast will also include Gemma Jones, Siobhan Finneran, Mark Lewis Jones and Mark Stanley.

The BBC says the series will (finally) air this autumn.

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Mon 9th / Tues 10th October Beeb One.
 




Fignon's Ponytail

Well-known member
Jun 29, 2012
4,478
On the Beach
My brother spent 9 months in Stoke Mandeville Hospital after being paralyzed in a motocross accident in '92, and he recalled seeing Savile quite a few times wandering around freely as he, apparently, had his own flat there. I dread to think what he got up to.
 


METALMICKY

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2004
6,823
I still have nightmares about that time I got home from a Withdean midweek game and, with drink taken, woke up on me couch at half two in the morning to be confronted by telly image of me onstage with Jimmy Savile on TOTP2 :eek:

*EDIT* Except it was literally a few weeks before the JS story broke, and I was SO proud of tracking down that moment that I proudly plastered it all over me social media :down:
Don't worry you're not the only one having to forget a moment you'd once celebrated.
 


dazzer6666

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
55,530
Burgess Hill
Watched both episodes last night, some have said the programme was just re hashed interviews with nothing new to add.
Well that it might be, but the way it was put together i thought was very good, just how could no one have known, many say.
Well, they did, and that is the main thrust of the two programmes, and to make sure we try and not let this happen again on any scale.

“I remember when I lived with my gran watching Jim I’ll fix it and she made me switch it off, saying there’s something wrong about him, your not watching it, that was in 1976”

I have posted before about my brush with “things” at a foster home, by someone in a position of trust and power, that was in about 75 and I have never told anyone in my family ever, I’ve hinted, but ultimately don’t want to burden them with guilt, or compassion as it’s not theirs to carry, just the guilty person, who is no doubt dead now.
Evil.

I often used to wonder how gran could tell something was wrong with Saville and no one knew about what happened to me, but I only found out recently when a family member recently passed away and something was said at the wake, she fought tooth and nail to get me out of that place, even though she was very ill and I went to live with her for a few years. Perhaps she knew, people get vibes, those are to be trusted sometimes.

Question everyone and everything
My grandmother said the same - I must have been about 8/9 perhaps, Fix It was on the TV and I remember the argument that followed when she said ‘there’s something I don’t like about him, he gives me the creeps. He’s up to no good’………what, Dear Old Jimmy, does a lot of good work for Charidee etc etc…….
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,321
Probably fixtures, but just in case it isn't...

'The radio show Good Morning Ulster on BBC Radio Ulster was tastelessly pranked live on air recently with a Jimmy Savile related joke.

Someone texted into the studio to say 'Jimmy Savile wasn't so bad' and that when the texter was 8 'Jimmy fixed it so they could milk a cow blindfolded'.


 






herecomesaregular

We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Oct 27, 2008
4,650
Still in Brighton
Can't decide whether to watch this tonight 🤔 Intrigued as to how well Coogan can capture his likeness (no pun intended)* but also, the subject was such an utter **** maybe it's a disservice to remember the bloke at all.

*plus it is ITV produced but on the BBC so intrigued as to how the BBC is portrayed.
 


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