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[Politics] Is this current Government to the right or left of Tony Blair's Government

How does Starmer compare to Blair ?

  • Far more Left

    Votes: 7 6.7%
  • More Left

    Votes: 14 13.5%
  • About the Same

    Votes: 30 28.8%
  • More Right

    Votes: 36 34.6%
  • Far more Right

    Votes: 17 16.3%

  • Total voters
    104


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
28,749
Simple question for a complex situation, where have we gone since the last Labour Government

And it's not public so nobody actually has to explain why they've voted what they have :rolleyes:
 






A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
22,030
Deepest, darkest Sussex
It must be more left because my Farage worshipping colleague says they’re all communists
 




pocketseagull

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Dec 29, 2014
1,438
The only thing that the Conservatives have shrunk is their own party. The only jobs that they have laid off are those of their poor party staff.

Can't remember anyone in the Blair/Brown government boasting about making people redundant. Wes Streeting is such a creep.

Tories being c***s is priced in. A Labour government winning an historic majority and using it to out tory the tories is unforgivable.
 














Peteinblack

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Jun 3, 2004
4,331
Bath, Somerset.
Demonising those on benefits is a Tory strategy.
True, but sadly, it is often the working poor who most hate those on welfare; easily persuaded that they are working hard for crap wages and paying "too much tax" while their next door neighbour (and immigrants) are living a life of luxury on Benefits. Yet more divide-and-rule, and 'punching down' on those who are deemed to be socially inferior.

Only 2% of welfare claimants are actually 'healthy' unemployed, whilst 48% of Universal Credit claimants are already in-work, but are eligible because their wages are so low. Yet there is never any headline-grabbing clamp-down - from the Tories or Labour - on employers who pay poverty wages because they know that their staff can claim top-up Benefits. Similarly with landlords who can raise rents knowing that Housing Benefit will cover their tenants' already exorbitant housing costs.

Anyone who claims that Benefits are too generous, or too easy to obtain, has probably not tried to claim them in the last 30 years. Britain's Benefit rates are among the lowest in Western Europe - although to Daily Mail readers, even cutting them to £1.23 per week would be condemned as too generous!

I really would love to see sanctimonious 'Benefit bashers' forced to live on Universal Credit for 6 months.

Today, I've seen people saying on social media that welfare claimants simply need to work harder - ignoring the fact that in most jobs, however hard you work, you receive the same wage or salary; the only people who will benefit from your hard(er) work will be your employer and/or shareholders, via generous bonuses and dividends.

As always, we demonise the most poorest and most vulnerable to divert attention from the insatiable greed of many corporate bosses and landlords. And we ignore the 'unaffordable' £ tens of billions lost through tax evasion.

All part of the never-ending War against the Poor.
 
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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
58,889
Faversham
True, but sadly, it is often the working poor who most hate those on welfare; easily persuaded that they are working hard for crap wages while their next door neighbour is living a life of luxury on Benefits. Yet more divide-and-rule, and 'punching down' on those who are deemed to be socially inferior.

Only 2% of welfare claimants are actually 'healthy' unemployed, whilst 48% of Universal Credit claimants are already in-work, but are eligible because their wages are so low - yet there is never any headline-grabbing clamp-down - from the Tories or Labour - on employers who pay poverty wages because they know that their staff can claim top-up Benefits. Similarly with landlords who can raise rents knowing that Housing Benefit will cover their tenants' exorbitant housing costs.

Anyone who claims that Benefits are too generous, or too easy to obtain, has probably not tried to claim them in the last 30 years. Britain's Benefit rates are among the lowest in Western Europe - although to Daily Mail readers, even cutting them to £1.23 per week would be condemned as too generous!

I really would love to see sanctimonious 'Benefit bashers' forced to live on Universal Credit for 6 months.

As always, we demonise the most poorest and most vulnerable to divert attention from the insatiable greed of many corporate bosses and landlords. And we ignore the 'unaffordable' £ tens of billions lost through tax evasion.
Labour are being accused of things they aren't doing.
I see that spare head 3 (McConnell) is out and about again.
Not bovvered by his ilk. I'm sure the Daily Mail will give him a column if he wants.

Everyone said Starmer would do nothing.
Now he's trying to do sumpfink, people are outraged.
Fancy that. :shrug:
 


Comrade Sam

Comrade Sam
Jan 31, 2013
2,049
Walthamstow
Trying to out manoeuvre the Tories and Reform from the right. Demonising the unemployed, disabled, immigrants and refugees. Increasing arms expenditure and cutting aid. Cutting pensions. All of this is to fill the hole made by Tory tax cuts for the rich. Anyone that thinks the last government wasn't harsh enough on the disabled and unemployed isn't going to suddenly want to vote Labour.
(Obviously I won't mention Labours support the genocide in Gaza).
Tax the fecking rich, even a little would help.
 








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
58,889
Faversham
Trying to out manoeuvre the Tories and Reform from the right. Demonising the unemployed, disabled, immigrants and refugees. Increasing arms expenditure and cutting aid. Cutting pensions. All of this is to fill the hole made by Tory tax cuts for the rich. Anyone that thinks the last government wasn't harsh enough on the disabled and unemployed isn't going to suddenly want to vote Labour.
(Obviously I won't mention Labours support the genocide in Gaza).
Tax the fecking rich, even a little would help.
I love a bit of class war, me.

Oh, hang on. I don't. That was it. I don't :shrug:
 










Jul 20, 2003
21,306
3.25

The 3 is the electable bit.

The .25 is giving a little bit to the people who hate foreigners and disabled people.
 


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