Is NSC now bad for the teams morale?

[bhaexpress]

I was being facaesci..fascaeci...faseicio..a twat.

Actually I gather he does read it.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I think that's rubbish. If the players do come on here, all I would say to them is don't come on the once and have a hissy fit - come on a few times in a 'lurker' capacity if you must.

That way you will quickly understand who are the muppets, and therefore pay less attention to what they say. Same as the rest of us.

I've got to be completely honest - I don't think this is a good board for players. There is clearly nothing to stop them, their contributions would be welcomed - I just don't know why they would want to spend time on here if they were having a hard time at the club for whatever reason.

There has also been the embarrassing sycophancy shown towards Race by certain individuals. It's not her fault, some people just can't help themselves, but it has stifled proper discussion of Tank's form (basically quite good for now, but that might change one day).

It is not a forum that needs getting bogged down in what upsets the occasional thin-skinned prima donna. It's for the fans.

Well said Sir. This is a fan's forum and it must remain as such. It is not meant as a forum for the player's and nor should it. If players' want to come on and have a look then fine but as long as they understand it's for us, the fans. And I don't think NSC should be responsible for undermining player's morale. If we can't post what we honestly think about a player's performance - good and bad - then what will this board become?

 

[Marshy]

I get torn apart by my manager on a saturday afternoon if i play shit, and i have to pay a fiver for the privelage.

And sometimes i feel like i care more about my game of football than they do, and its there job !

 

[Albion Dan]

How do you know that "many" of the players read this board and "many" are upset?

Every club has a messageboard, stop thinking that this messageboard is unique and different to every club in the world - it's part and parcel of being a pro footballer these days - expect some flak off the internet.

Where did I say it was any different to any other teams message boards? All I am interested is the effect on our football team.

It would be naive to think that players are not reading this site, Id imagine they are all on the internet and this is stuff being written about them.

I am merely asking a question about NSC and its effect on the team, not making statements about wether it is right or wrong.

 

[Albion Dan]

If we can't post what we honestly think about a player's performance - good and bad - then what will this board become?

There has been a big difference on occasions about comments on a performance and outright abusive slagging of individuals.

Guy Butters hardly got to play in his first season and was slagged off constantly.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Another thing that disappointed me last night about McCammon's comments was his criticism of the fans' support at Withdean.

The football was poor, the weather was cold, the opposition were uninspiring so it was never going to be vocal in the first place.

He'd do well to remember the size of his pay packet and the incredible support the team get away from home and learn to be more even-handed with his comments.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

There has been a big difference on occasions about comments on a performance and outright abusive slagging of individuals.

Guy Butters didnt hardly got to play in his first season and was slagged off constantly.

I'm not saying it's ok to abusively slag the players off ( and I haven't done this) but I defend the right of anyone on this board to criticise a poor performance just as people will praise good ones. People must be allowed to call it how they see it.

 

[Sid James]

Winning is the answer.

This board goes very quiet when we win. FACT

 

[Brovion]

I'm not saying it's ok to abusively slag the players off ( and I haven't done this) but I defend the right of anyone on this board to criticise a poor performance just as people will praise good ones. People must be allowed to call it how they see it.

Absolutely. I would guess that players are happy to accept the praise and the hero worship (although perhaps it does get a bit much for people like Beckham) so they have to understand that the other side of the coin is criticism and abuse. The trouble is is that both are done to extremes - but that's football. If it didn't raise such passions we wouldn't care and we wouldn't pay nearly £30 to sit in the open in the feeezing cold watching a turgid 0-0 draw - knowing that we'll do it all again next week come rain or shine, win or lose.

And I know the players don't like reminding but it IS that loyalty which means they can earn a decent living from what is effectively a pastime.

 

[rool]

It is not a forum that needs getting bogged down in what upsets the occasional thin-skinned prima donna. It's for the fans.

Exactly right. Generally speaking you can voice your opinion whatever it is on here, people might disagree with you and you get the odd argument but most can give as good they get.

If all you want is one sided, everything is rosy in the garden, blue and white spectacles stuff go to always skint or brightonfans.

 

[Gerbil]

Guy Butters hardly got to play in his first season and was slagged off constantly.

wasn't that before he started coming on here though?

 

[Kent Seagull]

Mark McGhee said in his programme notes last night that he reads the clubs internet message boards for suggestions/ideas for new players. If that's the case it means that A, the fans do know something abut football and B, if he was concerned that opinions on here were affecting his players, he could ban them from reading it.

I agree with McCammon that the fans could get behind the team a bit more, we hardly roared them to success last night did we? Withdean was like a bloody morgue last night. However, we are the customers and are entitled to be entertained for our money. If I'm not getting what I consider to be value for money I reserve the right to complain, just as I would anywhere else.

Professional footballers earn considerably more money than I do. If I don't perform to a high standard at work I won't last long. Much of my work involves the safety of other people, if I cock up people could get killed yet I earn a pittance in comparison. Last night cost me about £50 to attend and including travelling took up six hours of my time. £50 is a lot of money to pay for a long drive to sit in a freezing cold shitty stadium watching a very poor game. If players want to play in a packed stadium with a noisy crowd they have to do better than that.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

Mark McGhee said in his programme notes last night that he reads the clubs internet message boards for suggestions/ideas for new players.

Fair enough, you can always trust forums to provoke thought.

 

[Kent Seagull]

Fair enough, you can always trust forums to provoke thought.

At least it proves he is seaching anywhere he can for ideas for players, good on him.

Hi Mark

 

[Turkey]

There is a simple solution to them being upset. DON'T read the board.

I'd be surprised if Oatway reads the board....

Everyone is enititled to their opinion and criticism is fine. However, surely you can look at this in two ways. Do we want morale to be good? Of course we do. So why don't we try not slag the players off? Critcisim is fine but the problem comes when you get a bandwagon of people, slagging individuals off. By slagging players off and by banging on about how they get payed people are only creating a divide - us and them. What all want is for everyone to be together. We are part of the team, we do play a part in morale and perfromance. Compare last night to the Leeds game and Blackwell's comments about how we as fans really helped the team. Unfortuantly we needed a shocking ref to get us going.

 

[Trigger]

Everyone is enititled to their opinion and criticism is fine. However, surely you can look at this in two ways. Do we want morale to be good? Of course we do. So why don't we try not slag the players off?

Again, perhaps you could also mention that to Magoo.