Is it time for White & Booker to go ?

[Trigger]

To give Slade a chance of getting some proper help ?

 

[bhaexpress]

I honestly cannot see why they are still here.

 

[Icy Gull]

I have no idea but it would be good if we had coaching staff with a track history of bringing the best out in players. Something definitely seems to be amiss, be it the manager, the coaching staff or the players

We may be playing some good football but f***ing it up just about every game with a few moments of madness or lack of concentration. Way too many soft late goals scored against. Alarm bells ringing imo but I really don't know who's to blame, maybe just a combination. I'd like to see an experienced (at a higher level) vocal defender signed on loan very quickly as we lack experience and leadership on the field..

 

[The Wizard]

f*** off, every time we lose people have a go at these two, what the f*** have they done that's so wrong?

 

[Knotty]

I don't understand how you can blame them and not Slade?

If we were doing well would it all be down to them and nothing to do with Slade? Or vice versa?

How can you split them from Slade for praise or criticism if you don't see them at work? How many of us know exactly what they do during the week and can therefore make a valid judgement?

 

[Uncle Buck]

I don't understand how you can blame them and not Slade?

If we were doing well would it all be down to them and nothing to do with Slade? Or vice versa?

How can you split them from Slade for praise or criticism if you don't see them at work? How many of us know exactly what they do during the week and can therefore make a valid judgement?

The problem is post the Championship, we have been on a downward spirral, even though we have changed manager for than once and in the last couple of years invested fairly heavily in the side. The whole way through this spell, White has been here and for some reason Booker has been brought back. The manager needs his own coaching staff, not County League off casts.

 

[Knotty]

The problem is post the Championship, we have been on a downward spirral, even though we have changed manager for than once and in the last couple of years invested fairly heavily in the side. The whole way through this spell, White has been here and for some reason Booker has been brought back. The manager needs his own coaching staff, not County League off casts.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you. I simply don't know.

If the downward spiral were all their fault, surely those at the club who see far more than we do would have done something about it by now.

I just can't see how any of us can know that the manager is doing OK and the problem is all down to the coaching staff.

 

[Cadiz Seagull]

I honestly cannot see why they are still here.

It's very simple.

Slade is happy with them. If he wasn't he would replace them. It's called being a manager.

And don't give me any crap about Slade being told to keep them. that was a one-off when DK said he wanted the new manager to work with Bob Booker to maintain stability in the club - and quite right too, at that time.

Mind you, we obviously know FAR more about football management than Russell Slade so maybe they should go.

 

[CliveWalkerWingWizard]

I've heard that the players like Booker, but he is also regarded as a bit of a joke. I think the relationship does not have enough discipline - this shows on the pitch.
We have been seeing the same dreadful mistakes for about 2yrs now. In that time the only consistency is the coaching staff. Out I think.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

At the moment I think Whute has more credibility than Booker. White got 4 points from his 3 games in charge last season and also signed Lloyd Owusu whowas intrumental in keeping us up so I would have said White in, Booker out if there was that option.

 

[Ned]

I've heard that the players like Booker, but he is also regarded as a bit of a joke. I think the relationship does not have enough discipline - this shows on the pitch.
We have been seeing the same dreadful mistakes for about 2yrs now. In that time the only consistency is the coaching staff. Out I think.

White and Booker have been at the club for 10 years on and off with different managers and a different chairman. So if they're getting the blame now do they take the credit for the championships and play off final win?

 

[The Wizard]

f*** off, every time we lose people have a go at these two, what the f*** have they done that's so wrong?

Basically they are the club scapegoats, so to sum up, everything gets blamed on them no matter if its not their fault.

 

[Uncle Buck]

White and Booker have been at the club for 10 years on and off with different managers and a different chairman. So if they're getting the blame now do they take the credit for the championships and play off final win?

But like managers and players, they can be here for too long, run out of ideas and go a bit stale.

Look at Sheffield Wednesday, it has taken them a long time to get things sorted, but Laws seems to have done that now with his staff.

 

[Ned]

Fair comment Uncle Buck.

 

[dougdeep]

I'm sure it's Slade's decision who his backroom staff are, so the buck stops with him.

 

[e77]

Without knowing what each of the coaching staff do it is hard to criticise but Slade has chosen to keep them on.

I think people on NSC do seem to think the number 2 and 3 jobs at a (currently) lower third tier side is going to attract a glittering array of applicants from around the globe as opposed to the ex-youth team coach from Grimsby.

 

[Uncle C]

Dont forget that in the past, Dean Wilkins used to add a bit of class to the coaching staff.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

Without knowing what each of the coaching staff do it is hard to criticise but Slade has chosen to keep them on.

I think people on NSC do seem to think the number 2 and 3 jobs at a (currently) lower third tier side is going to attract a glittering array of applicants from around the globe as opposed to the ex-youth team coach from Grimsby.

Look at the setup that teams like MK Dons and Huddersfield have. All ex players with coaching certificates coming out of their arse with experience and coaches for all positions. It's no wonder players come to this club and feel it's bit of a laughing stock training wise and you can hardly blame them.

 

[e77]

Look at the setup that teams like MK Dons and Huddersfield have. All ex players with coaching certificates coming out of their arse with experience and coaches for all positions. It's no wonder players come to this club and feel it's bit of a laughing stock training wise and you can hardly blame them.

The evidence of my eyes would suggest that there are areas that could be improved by (not least defensive lapses in concentration) but it is hard to know who in the coaching team is responsible for what.

I can't imagine the training facilities help either.

 

[The Grockle]

We need a young, recent ex pro who the players can relate to especially as we now have quite a young team. I don't imagine young, promising players like Bennett or Tunnicliff could build a rappour or feel inspired by the likes of White and Booker.
Our players don't seem to be improving either Elphick seems to be going backwards and Cox still makes the same mistakes, this is down to the coaching set up. If we are looking to improve the team by bringing in players from a higher level we have to show them that despite the limitations of Withdean we have a first class coaching set up that has the tools to take this club to the Championship.

I'd say keep white, move Booker to a different role and get someone younger to compliment White a give our backroom staff a bit of a buzz around it. Whether White and Booker are capable or not, no one has any faith in them and i'm sure that extends to the players.