Is it okay to support the Lib Dems now?

[KneeOn]

I've always been under the impression that voting or supporting Lib Dem as an albion fan wasn't done. However a few people are now leaning towards the Lib Dems.

So. Whats going on. Is it right to support the Lib Dems (Bellotti's party and the party i *think* wanted to stop falmer?) or is it still a hangable-from-the-north-stands-roof offence?

 

[Gwylan]

The Lib Dems on Brighton council voted in favour of Falmer - it was the Green Party that was against it (although they've since changed their mind)

There is plenty of animosity towards Bellotti and Norman Baker - but IMO I think a lot of that is personal rather than anti-Lib Dem feeling - although there may be others that disagree.

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

Personally, I think Vince cable is right. The only party that is not tied to a tunnel-visioned pressure group is the Lib Dems. And although I have been Labour all my life I would , right now, have no porblem voting for Lib Dems. The problem is that the English are not very good at chanign their mindsets and the dominant mindset in the UK is that Lib Dems is a wasted vote. I hope this changes as we need change.

 

[algie]

The Lib Dems on Brighton council voted in favour of Falmer - it was the Green Party that was against it (although they've since changed their mind)

There is plenty of animosity towards Bellotti and Norman Baker - but IMO I think a lot of that is personal rather than anti-Lib Dem feeling - although there may be others that disagree.

The tories and Cameron himself backed Falmer.

 

[folkestonesgull]

The tories and Cameron himself backed Falmer.

...but then it only got permission after the S.O.S overalled the planning inspectorate so if its a single voting issue every brighton fan should vote labour and I can't see that happening!

 

[algie]

...but then it only got permission after the S.O.S overalled the planning inspectorate so if its a single voting issue every brighton fan should vote labour and I can't see that happening!

I cannot see it happening either.Certainly not from me.

You will never see me tick the Labour box again in my life.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

No. Wankers.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

No. Wankers.

The national party weren't interested when Baker and LDC were playing their silly games so I'm buggered if I'll vote for them.

 

[Ecosse Exile]

If one Lib Dem can ruin a football club ..........

So NO WAY from me

 

[Martinf]

The tories and Cameron himself backed Falmer.

I don't think so. The Tory Shadow environment minister was against.

A top Tory has sparked controversy by claiming the Falmer Stadium will “damage” the South Downs.

Nick Herbert, MP for Arundel and South Downs and the Conservatives’ shadow environment secretary, said by giving the go-ahead to the 22,000-seater complex, which is currently under construction on the outskirts of Brighton and Hove, the Government had failed to protect an area of outstanding natural beauty.
Labour seized on his comments as evidence of “residual opposition” to the development within the Conservative Party, and called for all politicians to back the stadium, which is scheduled to open in 2011.

Mr Herbert, who is tipped to become a senior cabinet minister in the event of a Conservative general election victory, triggered the row by writing in a national newspaper: “The most damage to the Downs in recent years came from [former Government minister] John Prescott’s approval of a 22,000-seat football stadium - shortly after he had announced the [South Downs National Park] to the Labour party conference.”

In a separate letter he added: “Labour say they want to ‘protect for ever’ the Downs - except where they’d rather develop them.”

Mr Herbert’s comments yesterday drew criticism from Brighton and Hove Albion and Les Hamilton, a Labour member of Brighton and Hove City Council’s planning committee.

Coun Hamilton, pointing out that the Conservative city councillor put in charge of sport had voted against the stadium during the planning process, said: “The Tories have always been split in how they regard the stadium but I’m rather surprised some are apparently still hostile and it’s disappointing there is still some residual opposition in the Conservative Party. I think it’s time everyone got behind the stadium and the Tories should stop carping about it.”

Martin Perry, chief executive of Brighton and Hove Albion, said the South Downs National Park inspector had agreed the stadium site had “no landscape significance whatsoever”.

Mr Perry added: “The South Downs National Park order specifically excludes the Falmer site and revokes the site’s former status as an area of outstanding natural beauty. Nick Herbert should get up to date.”

Mr Herbert yesterday defended his comments, saying he was simply pointing out the Labour Government’s “hypocrisy in claiming to protect the downs and then developing them”.

 

[fleet]

I'm sort of with The Merry Prankster on this one

 

[Simster]

The national party weren't interested when Baker and LDC were playing their silly games so I'm buggered if I'll vote for them.

Quite right too, it was a local issue.

 

[The Large One]

The tories and Cameron himself backed Falmer.

If you're talking about the Tories locally, not all of them did.

Some publicly did (I seem to recall the Theobalds did, and the three Conservative Westdene councillors (Pat Drake, Ken and Ann Norman) - around half the councillors if I recall correctly. However, the only person ever on the council to vote against the stadium at Falmer was David Smith - a Conservative councillor.

Labour were in total (public) support. The Greens against it. The Lib Dems didn't count.

 

[Dandyman]

The tories and Cameron himself backed Falmer.

Fatty Soames, Nick Herbert, Tim Laughton and the Tory who was in charge of sport on the Council during the planning stage were all against Falmer.

 

[algie]

Fatty Soames, Nick Herbert, Tim Laughton and the Tory who was in charge of sport on the Council during the planning stage were all against Falmer.

Sorry getting a bit confused.Cameron was still shadow education secretary when he backed Falmer

As for the backing i was refering to i ment Withdean Ward tory councillors

 

[beorhthelm]

here's a revolutionary idea: vote for candidates standing in your local constituancy based on their policies. not what some one from party office said 5 years ago.

obviously you cant back Baker in Lewes, but might find a LibDem candidate in B&H was a supporter.

 

[algie]

here's a revolutionary idea: vote for candidates standing in your local constituancy based on their policies. not what some one from party office said 5 years ago.

obviously you cant back Baker in Lewes, but might find a LibDem candidate in B&H was a supporter.

I'm ashamed to say our local labour mp is ok.

 

[Simster]

I'm ashamed to say our local labour mp is ok.

How can you be "ashamed" to say something like that?

 

[Stat Brother]

If push came to shove I would probably say I was a weirdy beardy Liberal. (without the beard, sandals, and lentils).

I remember Paddy Pantsdown spending a morning on 5-live.
He came across really well, simply answering all question. He didn't duck anything, and crucially, for me, he didn't point score or blame the other parties for our woes.
I was finding myself more and more in agreement.

But then, a couple of hours later I was listening to PMQ, where Paddy was basically laughed out of town by the big boys. Thereby highlighting the credibility problem the Liberals will always have in mainstream UK politics.

 

[Bwian]

As for the backing i was refering to i ment Withdean Ward tory councillors

Only because they wanted us away from Withdean as fast as possible. Sorry to say it but it seems as though the tories jump on The Albion bandwagon only when it suits-remember that twit at one of the protest marches? He barely knew the name of the club ffs but there he was, declaring his undying love and support for us.