[Football] Is football on TV done wrong?

[kuzushi]

I've noticed that often when a goal is scored, they replay it from behind the goal so that you can see it better, and I think, "If this shows everything better, why don't they just show it from this angle as the default view? Why not just give us the best view all the time?"

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If the default angle were to show it from behind the goal, I think it would be rare that they would then go to a camera over by the half-way line to see a better angle when they show replays.
Also, the objective is to get the ball in the goal, but when the camera is located on the half way line, you cannot see the goalposts probably >90% of the time. With the camera located behind the goal, you would be able to see the goalposts all the time. And because the pitch is rectangular, you can see much more of the pitch, and more of the players at any time.

From the halfway line, as the camera pans to the left or right, the viewing angle of the pitch tilts so that everything is at a tilted angle. Players on the near side of the pitch appear larger than those on the far side. There is no reason why this should be so: players on one flank are not more significant to what is going on in the game than those on the other flank. When viewed from behind the goal, players nearer the goal would appear larger. Also, from the halfway line, players that are no longer crucial to the action block the view of what's going on. When viewed from behind the goal, only those defenders who are between the ball and the goal would obscure the view of the ball.

 

[Normal Rob]

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[Muzzman]

Football on TV is awful, just when there's a lovely looking passing pattern starting to develop, the 'director' switches to an angle showing the player with the ball at ground level, or close to the touchline. They completely destroy the flow of the move. You also miss a lot of the movement off the ball, especially when The Albion are concerned.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

23 minutes of stunned silence in response to this so far...

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[Insel affe]

Football on TV is awful, just when there's a lovely looking passing pattern starting to develop, the 'director' switches to an angle showing the player with the ball at ground level, or close to the touchline. They completely destroy the flow of the move. You also miss a lot of the movement off the ball, especially when The Albion are concerned.

I am always baffled why they choose to do a close up of the player taking the corner, the balls whipped in and bang it's in the net like a sudden surprise when, only then do they show the clever intricate blocks and runs.

 

[Insel affe]

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[East Staffs Gull]

I’d prefer there to be no action replays while the ball is in play. Lots of build up play is missed because of action replays being shown. Likewise, no fan or bench shots while the action is continuing.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Is this thread hamstrung by the pejorative way the first question is posed, or is it just a piece of dirty dogshit?

 

[MattBackHome]

I've noticed that often when a goal is scored, they replay it from behind the goal so that you can see it better, and I think, "If this shows everything better, why don't they just show it from this angle as the default view? Why not just give us the best view all the time?"

Screen recording 2023-06-06 08.15.26

www.veed.io

If the default angle were to show it from behind the goal, I think it would be rare that they would then go to a camera over by the half-way line to see a better angle when they show replays.
Also, the objective is to get the ball in the goal, but when the camera is located on the half way line, you cannot see the goalposts probably >90% of the time. With the camera located behind the goal, you would be able to see the goalposts all the time. And because the pitch is rectangular, you can see much more of the pitch, and more of the players at any time.

From the halfway line, as the camera pans to the left or right, the viewing angle of the pitch tilts so that everything is at a tilted angle. Players on the near side of the pitch appear larger than those on the far side. There is no reason why this should be so: players on one flank are not more significant to what is going on in the game than those on the other flank. When viewed from behind the goal, players nearer the goal would appear larger. Also, from the halfway line, players that are no longer crucial to the action block the view of what's going on. When viewed from behind the goal, only those defenders who are between the ball and the goal would obscure the view of the ball.

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[kuzushi]

This is the f***ing gold standard of off season NSC threading. The addition of a POLL is chefs kiss perfecto. Congratulations

Why, thank you kindly

 

[PeterT]

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[Wozza]

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Me too. Exclusive club. Very difficult to join, actually.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Errr, ok. Isn't it a question of preference? But I do think it's a big part of the reason why many preferred kick off 2 and sensible soccer to the FIFA games ... ok age is also a factor

Also, some prefer the north stand, some prefer WSU (or WSL or the east I suppose)

I'm in WSU, which is great, for seeing if something is actually offside, great for seeing the different formations

The north is great for goalmouth action on that side of the pitch, not so much on the other side.

 

[drew]

Ridiculous thread. Most don't watch football from behind the goal. Better perspective from the side and up high.

 

[kuzushi]

Errr, ok. Isn't it a question of preference? But I do think it's a big part of the reason why many preferred kick off 2 and sensible soccer to the FIFA games ... ok age is also a factor

Also, some prefer the north stand, some prefer WSU (or WSL or the east I suppose)

I'm in WSU, which is great, for seeing if something is actually offside, great for seeing the different formations

The north is great for goalmouth action on that side of the pitch, not so much on the other side.

I think this is a good point. Some people might prefer to view the game from the halfway line, but I think that many would prefer the angle as shown in the video. In this day and age, why can't we have the option? I remember back in the early days of the Premier League there was an idea floating around of enabling viewers to choose their preferred angle to watch the game from (I can't remember which broadcaster was considering offering this service), but here we are in 2023 still forced to watch it from the halfway line.

Why is it done from the halfway line and not from behind the goal? Possibly because in the days when football was first televised there was only one camera, and it was heavy and difficult to move around, and didn't zoom in and out very well, so these considerations probably overrode what was better from a purely viewing point of view. If the view from behind the goal were already the default, I think the suggestion of changing it to the halfway line would seem utterly bizarre. I don't think we'd be seeing any replays from that angle 'cause it sucks. But here we are having to watch football like that just because in the olden days the cameras were bulky.

 

[jcdenton08]

Can I just say this is phenomenal work

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

They increasingly show penalties from behind (or in front of) the goal

 

[chickens]

Ridiculous thread. Most don't watch football from behind the goal. Better perspective from the side and up high.

Or what about ‘bucket cam’ for the Bielsa viewpoint?

Lots of shots of footballers from the groin to the foot, and no clue what’s happening if the ball’s off the deck.

I wonder if Bielsa only recognised his players by the idiosyncrasies of their groin bulges?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

They increasingly show penalties from behind (or in front of) the goal

Might be wrong here, but don't they show just about every damn thing from about half a dozen different angles? None of which come anywhere close to actually being there and experiencing the moment in real time. Even if VAR subsequently kills the experienced moment more often than not

 

[Brok]

This is the f***ing gold standard of off season NSC threading. The addition of a POLL is chefs kiss perfecto. Congratulations

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