HastingsSeagull
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Currently 166-3. Sounds like passes completed in 20 mins last night
So because people used to get pissed off with decisions in the past they should/must be in favour of VAR? How can you possibly reach that conclusion?Exactly… let’s dig out the Cardiff away game where Sol Bamba scored that ridiculous offside goal against us and see what people were saying then…
Agreed. It’s the chaos and drama VAR causes which helps sell the TV subscription fees and meaningless football talk shows. Football seems way more focused on the market of viewers who don’t attend the matches and can’t and never did play the game.It’s not more entertaining it’s shit for the fans who attend, although in this modern age the few days after and the few days before each weekend is big business for outlets. These outlets crave the bad calls, managers under pressure etc. what else would perma tan Jordan and that Scottish gimp have to talk about if it all went swimmingly. Unfortunately the refs pander to these idiots each week.
No - I’m just saying that either way people will moan and be pissed off when mistakes happen.So because people used to get pissed off with decisions in the past they should/must be in favour of VAR? How can you possibly reach that conclusion?
We used to discuss it. We all agreed that technology has aided decision-making in sports like cricket, so wouldn't it be great if we could do it for football. Yes, we agreed, it would be. But how would you implement it? Rather than answering that question the authorities just charged ahead and lumbered us with this curent fiasco.
It's shit - and far from making sure the match officials reach the correct decisions it's simply added another level of poor decision-making. How could it be otherwise given the way it's been implemented? They need to go back to the drawing board.
Guessing you weren't at Selhurst yesterday then.It kills the spontaneous emotions of fans
I’d rather the football improves rather than the decisions.No - I’m just saying that either way people will moan and be pissed off when mistakes happen.
The point in my mind that still annoys me was the Cardiff game under Hughton. We knew VAR was coming and the red Stephens got was borderline and could have been overturned and the ludicrous off side that Bamba scored from late on. At the time I thought ‘at least with VAR next season goals like that won’t stand’
Yesterday was disgraceful and there is no excuse, but you don’t stop progressing with someone which ultimately can and will improve decision making just because of a few problems.
We’d not be driving cars or flying planes if that was the mentality.
not really comparible, or show the flaw of VAR. then there was an obvious offside not given. now we have marginal decisions made, with the wrong player selected and lines made with incorrect angles. VAR is supposed to be catching the obvious errors, not trying to achieve 100% accuracy, failing, making worse decisions. that isnt progress.No - I’m just saying that either way people will moan and be pissed off when mistakes happen.
The point in my mind that still annoys me was the Cardiff game under Hughton. We knew VAR was coming and the red Stephens got was borderline and could have been overturned and the ludicrous off side that Bamba scored from late on. At the time I thought ‘at least with VAR next season goals like that won’t stand’
Yesterday was disgraceful and there is no excuse, but you don’t stop progressing with someone which ultimately can and will improve decision making just because of a few problems.
We’d not be driving cars or flying planes if that was the mentality.
But in football even ‘quite quick’ ruins the flow.most cricket decisions are quite quick these days...
Nothing stopping ex players getting involved, but they don’t want to. And an ex player wouldn’t help yesterday when it was clearly an error rather than understanding of the law.It’s an abomination. f*** it off. Re-referee everything and joy kill everything. Pay and train refs to a level that more ex players (from a decent level) want to officiate.
AgreedIt’s an abomination. f*** it off. Re-referee everything and joy kill everything. Pay and train refs to a level that more ex players (from a decent level) want to officiate.
I`m not convinced if it has taken Howard Webb 5 weeks and he still hasn`t figured out Mason is a moron surrounded by a whole lot of other morons . Mind you 5 weeks is pretty quick by VAR standardsNo problem with VAR. The over analysis and pulling apart every decision by media outlets drove us to it. But no excuse for the incompetence of those running it.
Howard Webb has a tough job just 5 weeks into a new job
If salaries go up to a starting £250k a year, a lot more ex-players (especially those with solid but unspectacular careers) would be more inclined to cross the rubicon.Nothing stopping ex players getting involved, but they don’t want to. And an ex player wouldn’t help yesterday when it was clearly an error rather than understanding of the law.
But what difference does that make ?If
If salaries go up to a starting £250k a year, a lot more ex-players (especially those with solid but unspectacular careers) would be more inclined to cross the rubicon.
Unfortunately not. But I was a STH long enough at the AMEX yo know the feeling of should we celebrate or do we have yo wait 'just in case'Guessing you weren't at Selhurst yesterday then.