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Is Elphik responsible for goal?









Sam Ovett

The New Manager Bus
From the views we had on the telly box, none were from the referee's eyes, so we cannot tell what the ref saw. The ref could have seen it hit tommy's hand, and I think it did hit his, and therefore gives the free kick.

However, fletcher did sort of push him towards it a lot and had his hand trying to grope Elphick from the start, so it is still a tough decision, which ultimately, as usual goes against us
 


Barnham Seagull

Yapton Actually
Dec 28, 2005
2,353
Yapton
Elphick only had his arms in the air to counteract what Fletcher was doing on every ball played into him.

The ref only once gave a foul for Fletcher raising his arms all over the place so Elphick had to follow suit in order to have any chance of winning an aerial ball.

I said before the Elbow incident to those around me that Symes was all arms and Elbows it just shows that the ref did not see this as foul play or that serious, hence only a yellow for an elbow/forearm in the face.
 


KneeOn

Well-known member
Jun 4, 2009
4,695
Agree - Factually Incorrect is a great term. And it's not often that decisions are factually incorrect - often they're opinion aren't they. You prob get 1 factually incorrect big decision every 3 seasons following a team maybe?!

Glad you mentioned Rochdale as I got shit on here for saying the incorrect award of a pen cost us 2 points (which i still stand by) and yesterdays one clearly did... Also Sheff Weds, weren't they lucky to have 11 on the pitch too?

We've had woeful luck this yr and are still top of the league - the signs are good!

Wednesday = thats a judgement thing.

Rochdale = Factually incorrect

Bournemouth is a little less clear. Yes it was an incorrect decision but the Lino some how (and i do not know how) was convinced it was a penalty.

Mis-judgement is a possibility but its one of those illjudgements that was clear cut.
 




Everest

Me
Jul 5, 2003
20,741
Southwick
Watched it slow mo on my tv about 15 times. I think it has hit their players hand, then Elphick's - about 30% sure.

Which means you're 70% sure that it didn't hit Fletcher's hand first, so how can you think it did? :shrug:
 


Uwinsc

New member
Aug 14, 2010
1,254
Horsham
I think Elphick was asking for trouble by having his hand up in that situation but it doesn't make the desicion to award a penalty any less awful
 






Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,683
The Fatherland
we cannot tell what the ref saw.

We can. Given the ref gave a free kick against us, and referees can only give what they see, we can assume the referee saw Elphick handle the ball outside the box.
 


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