[Politics] Is £22 per primary school pupil enough to make up for the Covid impact on education?

[El Presidente]

The government’s Covid education ‘Tsar’ has quit over the issue. The government has committed £1.4bn, almost half of the £15bn that Sir Kevan Collins recommended to make up for lost education, especially in poorer areas of the country.

Who is right though?

Before any accusations, yes I have worked in education for over 30 years.

 

[Lethargic]

£22 is not enough but I am a bit confused by the figures 1.4 billion is not half of 15 billion and £22 per child out of 1.4 billion, doesn't that equate to approx 63 million children I know the population has grown but not by that much.
Alternatively and more believable how much is been passed out to a cabinet friendly consultancy to tell us the children need more education?

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[vegster]

The government’s Covid education ‘Tsar’ has quit over the issue. The government has committed £1.4bn, almost half of the £15bn that Sir Kevan Collins recommended to make up for lost education, especially in poorer areas of the country.

Who is right though?

Before any accusations, yes I have worked in education for over 30 years.

Mrs V is a teacher and up til 4 years ago was a specialist reading teacher using the Every Child a Reader system ( ECAR)... this one to one teaching method is proven to work for youngsters of 5/6 who can get left behind quite easily without specialist help. Sadly the funding was cut and Mrs V was told it was back to whole class teaching or bye bye.

I think there is an enormous need for this programme to return given the sheer amount of teaching that has been lost to children over the last 18 months or so but, can I see it happening ? Absolutely NO Chance. Most schools have had their budgets frozen or cut over the last few years to the extent that experienced ( ie those earning the most money ) teachers have been forced out and it will require a massive input of cash to redress this and it simply isn't going to happen.

I realised a while back that the government only want to educate kids up to a level where they can contribute taxes but, not to a level of education where they start asking awkward questions about society and the way the country is run.

 

[beorhthelm]

as noted the £22 figure is odd. also odd is articles this week werent very clear on what the £15bn was supposed to be spent on, where that amount would go or over what time. we never really get into the meat of what spending is being proposed, is it a good idea and productive and meets objectives, we're simply fed that spending is good or bad.

for info there's 8.9m school pupils, so £1.4bn is £157; 15bn is £1685. normal spending per pupil is about £3700-£5000 (primary, secondary) so thats quite a large proportion being asked for.

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

Who is the one person who voted ‘yes’? I’d like to hear their reasoning please

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

Mrs V is a teacher and up til 4 years ago was a specialist reading teacher using the Every Child a Reader system ( ECAR)... this one to one teaching method is proven to work for youngsters of 5/6 who can get left behind quite easily without specialist help. Sadly the funding was cut and Mrs V was told it was back to whole class teaching or bye bye.
.

That’s the problem with schemes, even if they work, new and more fashionable things come along and replace others before you’ve had time to really see if they actually work. The amount of times we as a profession have flip flopped between individual reading, whole class reading and grouped guided reading is ridiculous.

 

[zefarelly]

Who is the one person who voted ‘yes’? I’d like to hear their reasoning please

There's an ejakashon joke in there somewhere.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

It’s a “no brainer” (which will describe the nation’s kids if more resource isn’t put in).

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Mrs T has been home schooling the nipper (till they went back recently - and beyond). She has put in an amazing shift. We are talking hundreds of hours. Any kid whose parents are unable to match this, for whatever reason, have disadvantaged kids. It will take a lot of time and money to fix this. Money and a plan are needed. Given that HMG will be basking in the prediction our economy will have bounced back by the end of the year, despite the insane amounts of money that went into the furlough scheme, this is a political decision.

Oh, and like El Pres I too have been in education for more than 30 years (and no doubt like El Pres am a 'fellow of the higher education academy').

 

[zefarelly]

It's more than a little concerning teachers and heads are leaving the industry in droves.

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

It's more than a little concerning teachers and heads are leaving the industry in droves.

They have been for some time. When I trained 6/7 years ago, we were told that 1 in 5 leave within the first 3 years. Covid has made things much worse with many feeling even more overworked and under appreciated.

 

[Hugo Rune]

It’s all very odd. This ‘catching up’ Tsar was hand picked by Johnson. Like with Patel’s investigation or the list of towns that qualified for ‘levelling up’ he has not got he answer he wants and is pursing his own agenda anyway. Is it really worth him asking the experts if he is just going to take a political decision?

 

[Pretty Plnk Fairy]

It's more than a little concerning teachers and heads are leaving the industry in droves.

Snowflakes in every industery

Regards

DF

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

Snowflakes in every industery

Regards

DF

I know you’re just a right wing troll who is probably fishing but do **** off. I doubt you’d last a day in the industry you odious cretin.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I know you’re just a right wing troll who is probably fishing but do **** off. I doubt you’d last a day in the industry you odious cretin.

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

How do you figure?

 

[Chicken Run]

I know you’re just a right wing troll who is probably fishing but do **** off. I doubt you’d last a day in the industry you odious cretin.

Goodness me the bait is being taken today [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[Is it PotG?]

How do you figure?

It's a long standing spoof account.

PPF has lower case spelling.

 

[Chicken Run]

How do you figure?

It isn’t the real fairy


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[midnight_rendezvous]

It's a long standing spoof account.

PPF has lower case spelling.

It isn’t the real fairy


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Well I’ve certainly been had then

More fool me. I will have to look out for case sensitivity in future dealing with the PPF