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Independence for Scotland?



Samej

Banned
Apr 24, 2011
1,303
Please, please, please let them f*** off. See how they fare on their own without the English taxpayer funding them.

Also, really fed up of the Scottish vote giving us a Labour Government.

I fuckin hate sweaty socks!
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,274
Eee's complicated.... I'm not a big fan of the Sweaties and I don't think a lot of them even like Scotland or else, why do we have so many of them down here ?

It would be sad to lose them though as it's nice to have someone to look down on. It would also put the matter of Andy Murray to bed once and for all...and wouldn't it be nice to have passport control on the border to keep them out ?
 


Also, really fed up of the Scottish vote giving us a Labour Government.

Leaving aside the sheer stupidity of this - do you really think that Scotland alone delivers a Labour govt? - I can assure you that you are nowhere nearly as fed up as the Scots are with England giving them a Tory govt. Indeed, the Tories are the main reason why most Independence supporters feel the way they do.
 


I fear that he can't see beyond his desire to be the first President of Scotland.

I fear that you are ignorant of Scottish politics. There won't be a president of Scotland during Alex Salmond's political career even if he delivers independence next year! To prevent a hugely damaging split in the party they don't even talk about republicanism and monarchy. A newly-independent Scotland will have a monarch and a first minster, just as it does now.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,947
Crap Town
Eee's complicated.... I'm not a big fan of the Sweaties and I don't think a lot of them even like Scotland or else, why do we have so many of them down here ?

It would be sad to lose them though as it's nice to have someone to look down on. It would also put the matter of Andy Murray to bed once and for all...and wouldn't it be nice to have passport control on the border to keep them out ?

As Scotland would still be in the EU there is no need to build Checkpoint Jimmys along the border.
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,274
As Scotland would still be in the EU there is no need to build Checkpoint Jimmys along the border.

Take it from me, if you get on the Eurostar to Brussels at Ebbsfleet, you have to show your passport to British and French Customs....
 


Samej

Banned
Apr 24, 2011
1,303
eee's complicated.... I'm not a big fan of the sweaties and i don't think a lot of them even like scotland or else, why do we have so many of them down here ?

It would be sad to lose them though as it's nice to have someone to look down on. It would also put the matter of andy murray to bed once and for all...and wouldn't it be nice to have passport control on the border to keep them out ?

lmfao
 




The Spanish

Well-known member
Aug 12, 2008
6,478
P
Surely the whole of the UK would have to vote on this not just Scotland?

thats what the jocks cannot afford to risk. a close enough local vote to secure constant patronising from London and safety net guaranteed tax raising powers to massage egos and appeal to the scotsmans primary concern, never having to put his hand in his pocket if someone else will, will suit everyone north of the border fine.

they have whinged and pissed off the English so much a UK wide vote would ensure independence by a landslide. then they really would have something to moan about the English for.
 


jakarta

Well-known member
May 25, 2007
15,738
Sullington
Leaving aside the sheer stupidity of this - do you really think that Scotland alone delivers a Labour govt? - I can assure you that you are nowhere nearly as fed up as the Scots are with England giving them a Tory govt. Indeed, the Tories are the main reason why most Independence supporters feel the way they do.

A win-win situation then - go independant and never have a Tory Goverment ever again :bigwave:

Of course your country may have a few problems funding itself without English Taxpayers money but never mind - I'm sure the Scottish people will knuckle down to it!
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,227
Goldstone
Its Scottish oil revenue that funded Thatcher throwing millions on the dole queue in the Eighties.
How did you work that out, you haven't been listening to that wanker Salmond have you? The oil really belongs to the whole of the UK, including Wales and Northern Ireland as much as England and Scotland. We were united when we found it, the closest town/nation/whatever can't suddenly ask for independance and claim it, otherwise the Orkney and Shetland islands might as well claim independance, along with Aberdeen, and they could have the lot.
 




jakarta

Well-known member
May 25, 2007
15,738
Sullington
Personally I like Scotland and the Scots, especially as every time I go up there to work offshore I'm earning £600 per day.

However I also like other bits of the European Union I visit such as Greece, Italy and Portugal, but as far as I can see, they don't have any MPs in Westminster deciding what I can and cannot do and specifically spending my taxes on their country. :wrong:


So as I said in my previous posting, nice to have known you, please feel free to go off & try your Celtic Socialist Dream, but not using any of my money.


And whichever way it goes please also feel free to not come back......
 


Jimbo.GRFC

Banned
Apr 2, 2010
1,378
free medication

free university education

free care for the elderly

really great

but hang on a minute its not coming from any raised taxes in Scotland its the BRITISH taxpayers money yep let them have it methinks any voters with sense will throw this one out

You may have missed the North Sea Oil issue here. "Oilfields" which are in Scottish waters. producing £billions to the economy of the UK, however if you read on from that comment, I myself as a Jocko am forever arguing with my family in Scotland about their free lunch. Indeed why should they get free care for the elderly (which I do believe in and definitely a system our MP's in England on behalf of our OAP's nationwide should have debated, approved and written in the Government's statute book long before now) I could address the other two issues you have raised but for fear of being called a racist by the NSC Police, will keep my own Counsel on this one. Mr Salmond (SNP) is the problem beware as he is absolutely so Anti-The Union, he is embarrassing
 


glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
You may have missed the North Sea Oil issue here. "Oilfields" which are in Scottish waters. producing £billions to the economy of the UK, however if you read on from that comment, I myself as a Jocko am forever arguing with my family in Scotland about their free lunch. Indeed why should they get free care for the elderly (which I do believe in and definitely a system our MP's in England on behalf of our OAP's nationwide should have debated, approved and written in the Government's statute book long before now) I could address the other two issues you have raised but for fear of being called a racist by the NSC Police, will keep my own Counsel on this one. Mr Salmond (SNP) is the problem beware as he is absolutely so Anti-The Union, he is embarrassing

having lived in Wales for 8 years and listened to the Welsh snipe at, continually compare with and support anything that is NOT English we have come to the conclusion that most are anti union and in that 8 years the copying of the English model has shifted to copying the Scottish one, with the ultimate goal of becoming independent.
Even going as far as having a language all of their own, this would be absolute stupidity as they have no industry to speak of and a little tourism which they don't make the most of ....unlike Scotland who have some industry and great tourism base.
I don't disagree with most you have said other than surely the oil fields would be in British waters off Scotland.
We did at one time consider living in Scotland (close to the Murray firth) for its wildlife and there are times I wish we had taken the plunge and moved there .............but hey we all make the wrong choices in life once in a while.
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Got to be honest, having worked in Scotland several times over the years I have never experienced the same level of anti Anglomania that I have on visits to Wales.
 


blue2

New member
Apr 21, 2010
1,229
That's my point. Canada started as a colony, not part of the UK.

There never was a Canadian crown. There was a Scottish crown and an English crown and they became united when James VI became James I as well.

What would we call the rump nation of England, Wales and Northern Ireland? Mentioning the monarchy in the name of the nation would surely be inappropriate?

LB very good point I guess the crowns could divide and at some point king Harry of Scotland and King William of England
 


Jimbo.GRFC

Banned
Apr 2, 2010
1,378
This is a commonly propogated myth, I guarantee you , that under international law the oil is in english waters, the sea borders follow the same angle as the land border, its OURS .

Feck me, you've done your homework on this one or you've simply overheard the answer being discussed between 2 business gents on the London tube
 


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