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Bluejuice

Lazy as a rug on Valium
Sep 2, 2004
8,270
The free state of Kemp Town
Hence I alluded to that very fact in my post.

I was merely passing on the suggestions of similarities being offered by this one policy party
 


Dandyman

In London village.
http://www.spunk.org/library/antifasc/sp000525.html:lolol:

as you Know I am no racist reactionary uber nationalist.


Then why support a party that clearly is? Griffin has always been an opportunist and it's no suprise that he should attempt to disguise his anti-working class,anti-semitic, racist, reactionary views behind a cloak of civic nationalism but he remains the same old Mosley wanabe he's always been.
 


coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
Then why support a party that clearly is? Griffin has always been an opportunist and it's no suprise that he should attempt to disguise his anti-working class,anti-semitic, racist, reactionary views behind a cloak of civic nationalism but he remains the same old Mosley wanabe he's always been.

I don't think Nick is a Mosley wanabe. Now Tyndal was. You didn't have to suffer his speeches like I did. Then again the old mosleyites support the EU and the owner of the Mosley site is voting Green:lol:

I have given my reasons for voting BNP numerous times. I am a good old free thinking nationalist.

For National Freedom and Social Justice
 




Stoo82

GEEZUS!
Jul 8, 2008
7,530
Hove
I don't think Nick is a Mosley wanabe. Now Tyndal was. You didn't have to suffer his speeches like I did. Then again the old mosleyites support the EU and the owner of the Mosley site is voting Green:lol:

I have given my reasons for voting BNP numerous times. I am a good old free thinking nationalist.

For National Freedom and Social Justice

Why would'nt you call yourself a commie then? Just out of interest? They are Nationlists and Socialists.
 




coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
Why would'nt you call yourself a commie then? Just out of interest? They are Nationlists and Socialists.

The commies are not Nationalists. They are internationalists. I am also against totalitarianism of any kind.

I am in sympathy with some of what they say. Its just about the solution we differ on.
 




Stoo82

GEEZUS!
Jul 8, 2008
7,530
Hove
The commies are not Nationalists. They are internationalists. I am also against totalitarianism of any kind.

I am in sympathy with some of what they say. Its just about the solution we differ on.

I supose your right there. Not really thought about it, but they do have an world wide domination thing going on.
 


coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
I supose your right there. Not really thought about it, but they do have an world wide domination thing going on.

The way I see it is that capitalism has exploited the developing world. This has caused horrendous poverty. Hence the reason why people risk their lives to come to Europe. Capitalism is more than happy for this to happen as it can push down wages and cause division. I believe that a fair distrubution of wealth throughout the world needs to happen.

Its idealistic I know
 


Stoo82

GEEZUS!
Jul 8, 2008
7,530
Hove
The way I see it is that capitalism has exploited the developing world. This has caused horrendous poverty. Hence the reason why people risk their lives to come to Europe. Capitalism is more than happy for this to happen as it can push down wages and cause division. I believe that a fair distrubution of wealth throughout the world needs to happen.

Its idealistic I know

I also would like to live in an Idealistic world where everyone is happy and able to feed thier familys.

Yes, Africa is a massive problem. The problem is, and i don't know if your an anit-capalitist, is, everything has a price, and it always has done. For example, before currency people exchanged goods like two sheep for one cow. There are major problems with the rich becomeing far to rich and i dont see away out of it.

I beleive if you are good at say, medicine then you earn the right to more money than, no disrespect, someone who works at the co-op on the tills.

This is not to say, we should not help the co-op worker as they still need to be able to afford food housing and such and such. I personaly, don't find it terriable that someone who has got a 'profecional job' gets paid more.

My political views are somwhere in the middle of capitalsium and communisum.
 




Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
My political views are somewhere between The Third Way and the Fourth Dimension
 


BHAboi

Active member
Jan 26, 2009
381
BHA
I dont see how looking out for the peoples whos country it is can be wrong, if is our country then why should we not be first to get the jobs than some immigrant that’s done fuk all to build the economy yet will most likely get the job just so the employer does not look racist?
 


Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
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I dont see how looking out for the peoples whos country it is can be wrong, if is our country then why should we not be first to get the jobs than some immigrant that’s done fuk all to build the economy yet will most likely get the job just so the employer does not look racist?

Look at your own logic.

If you think it's immigrants that have been getting the jobs...

Rather than 'fuk all' it's actually they that have built the economy and those Brits that have been passed up that have recently done 'fuk all'.
 




alan partridge

Active member
Jul 7, 2003
5,256
Linton Travel Tavern
Not exactly. About 10 years ago he did but since then he has changed his mind and says the holocaust took place. To be honest you would have to understand that Griffin was playing up to the hardliners at the time to gain control of the BNP. He is not well liked amongst the far right.

Pathetic. I know you weigh in to defend the BNP at any opportunity but this?

Oh he was just playing up to the hardliners was he. Silly little holocaust. Fine, use that for political gain.


(cue: Lefty, PC, fine for you were you live, keyboard warrior type comments...)
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,841
Uffern
Hitler rose to power on the back of SEVERE economic collapse leading to widespread disillusionment with mainstream political parties.

Right now we are struggling through a period of economic uncertainty (although admittedly it's nothing like on the same scale as pre-war Germany) and public support for our MP's seems to be dropping at an alarming rate on a daily basis.


This came up on a thread a week and I pointed out that this is a bit of a fallacy. It's true that the Nazi vote grew after the 1928 economic collapse but Germany was the only country where the far-right made any sort of electoral headway in the depression of the early 30s. Hitler's success was much more to do with consequences of Germany's defeat in WW1 (the loss of land, financial reparations and perceived loss of national face) than it had to do with the economic situation - although that certainly helped.


And Stoo82, Hitler was not elected as Chancellor - he was appointed by Hindenberg, the president. Although the Nazis didn't command an absolute majority in parliament, they were the largest party but Hindenberg chose Hitler as Chancellor as he thought that Hitler was weak and could be easily controlled (ha).

It's dangerous to extrapolate from the German situation to what happens here - the circumstances are quite different. If we'd have to give Newcastle to Scotland, and Bristol and Hereford to Wales as part of treaty obligations, we might consider the similarities but until that happens, we should try avoid using the Hitler example.
 


The way I see it is that capitalism has exploited the developing world. This has caused horrendous poverty. Hence the reason why people risk their lives to come to Europe. Capitalism is more than happy for this to happen as it can push down wages and cause division. I believe that a fair distrubution of wealth throughout the world needs to happen.

Its idealistic I know


Stop quoting from the FW Years book of political statements please !!


Still don't get the "Griffin playing up to the hardliners to gain control" thing. In my book anyone who would deny the holocaust for any reason, especially to gain control of a political party, is beyond contempt and demonstrates in that one action why they should never be trusted as a politician.
 
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Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,888
Stop quoting from the FW Years book of political statements please !!


Still don't get the "Griffin playing up to the hardliners to gain control" thing. In my book anyone who would deny the holocaust for any reason, especially to gain control of a political party, is beyond contempt and demonstrates in that one action why they should never be trusted as a politician.
Exactly. Why would any decent person want to join and/or take control of a party of holocaust deniers? Why not just start your own BRITISH National Party appealing to all British people as Cov insists they are going to do?

I think it's FAR more likely that he's still a holocaust denier and he's now pretending he isn't in order to make the BNP more electable.
 




seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,949
Crap Town
Somebody on Question Time last night raised an interesting point. With everyone urging the voting public not to vote for the BNP next week , some people will be bloody minded and vote for them just to spite the main parties , which is funny when you think about it.
 


Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
Somebody on Question Time last night raised an interesting point. With everyone urging the voting public not to vote for the BNP next week , some people will be bloody minded and vote for them just to spite the main parties , which is funny when you think about it.

Whatever they may think, people who do that are still allowing the main parties to decide their vote

They are making their decision still in the shadow of what a main party politician is telling them what to do.

They are behaving like an upset five year old.
 


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