if you all hate labour clap your hands

[tedebear]

That's an interesting story and a good illustration of how the media have consistently failed to get any real FACTS across to the public.

Newspapers campaign against top heavy management in the NHS and say that the money should be spent on front-line medical services. When it turns out that the money that is spent on medical services is ending up in the pockets of doctors who are earning up to £100,000 a year in "overtime", the media points the finger at overstretched NHS managers.

Make your bloody minds up. Or, alternatively, stop trying to find easy targets to "blame".

I'm not sure I follow what your point is Lord B. ? How can such excessive overtime be anything other than the result of a flawed system, which is run by far too much management not being efficient and effective?

 

[Beach Hut]

That combined with the fact that the bonuses are in peoples contracts. I'd be bloody furious if any government ( whatever the colour ) thought it could alter MY contract just to appease the voters.

That is a very good point although where I work you get a confirmation each year if you are on the bonus scheme, I would be very annoyed if any political party decided I should not have one.

 

[tedebear]

Meanwhile, in a parallel universe - uncontrollable by politicians - speculators gamble in the markets that sustain international capitalism. And they reward themselves to excess.

Voting makes no difference. We all suffer from the cock-ups that the speculators make, but few of us enjoy the benefits of their "successful" punts.

Where speculators affect the economy to such a dramatic effect shows poor regulation

 

[Biscuit]

Easy - the opposition were in a mess which is what Labour are in now.

Maybe true of the third vote. But the first two were won on merit.

 

[Phoenix Arrow]

Maybe true of the third vote. But the first two were won on merit.

Well, I wouldn't go that far. The first two... actually all three of their elections were won because of Tony Blair. Tories kept putting up people that floating voters were never going to vote for.
I vote Lib Dems because their policies lined up pretty neatly with my own. Now they've got power in their nostrils and sold out their beliefs I don't know who I'm going to vote for next time around. I'll never vote Tory, Labour have proved themselve ineffective and Lib Dems have a lot of explaining to do. Might not even bother at this stage.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Some interesting points from various political views, but the one thing i can say for certain (and probably without any contradiction)

Vulture is the stupidest poster on NSC - in the face of some extreme competition

 

[vulture]

Some interesting points from various political views, but the one thing i can say for certain (and probably without any contradiction)

Vulture is the stupidest poster on NSC - in the face of some extreme competition

coming from you lol....

 

[Higham Seagull Army]

or one of the millons of immigrants they brought into the country to get their vote and to f*** this country even more.Labour will never be forgiven for their betrayal off this country

I dont think youre argument is with labour is it ?? judging from this quote you just hate anyone who is non-white .

 

[cannedheat]

As we are on the subject of Labour ha ha ha, what has happened to that rapist of the true English working class Brown has he crawled out of that hole he dived in yet.

 

[Castello]

Please can I ask that people dont quote what vile garbage vulture posts. He is on my ignore list, as Ive never seen anything of merit posted by him when he wasnt, to suggest I need be aware of his existence on this planet. Plus repeating it just makes him feel important.

 

[vulture]

Please can I ask that people dont quote what vile garbage vulture posts. He is on my ignore list, as Ive never seen anything of merit posted by him when he wasnt, to suggest I need be aware of his existence on this planet. Plus repeating it just makes him feel important.

what a prick you are

 

[El Presidente]

Where speculators affect the economy to such a dramatic effect shows poor regulation

The speculation is done on a global basis, the only way to regulate it is to have a single government across the whole world, would you rather have that?

The last person who tried it did have a final solution.

 

[El Presidente]

As we are on the subject of Labour ha ha ha, what has happened to that rapist of the true English working class Brown has he crawled out of that hole he dived in yet.

Someone's got their random word generator in operation again tonight.

 

[El Presidente]

Well, I wouldn't go that far. The first two... actually all three of their elections were won because of Tony Blair. Tories kept putting up people that floating voters were never going to vote for.
I vote Lib Dems because their policies lined up pretty neatly with my own. Now they've got power in their nostrils and sold out their beliefs I don't know who I'm going to vote for next time around. I'll never vote Tory, Labour have proved themselve ineffective and Lib Dems have a lot of explaining to do. Might not even bother at this stage.

I feel exactly the same.

 

[ILIKECANDLES]

Some interesting points from various political views, but the one thing i can say for certain (and probably without any contradiction)

Vulture is the stupidest poster on NSC - in the face of some extreme competition

This. I love you bruv!

 

[ILIKECANDLES]

I feel exactly the same.

You can't not vote though. It's just wrong. You have to at least be able to know in your heart that you voted anything other than Tory. You owe yourself that.

 

[vulture]

This. I love you bruv!

says the total and utter tool that has been banned from this site loads we all thought for good .....

 

[brightonlass2009]

Who were only clearing up the shit left by 18 years of a Tory government.

THIS is what people seem to forget.
Yes, Labour screwed up, but at least it wasn't entirely their fault. Admittedly their spending plan was a bit hit and miss, but if America goes into a recession the entire world is pretty much f***ed.
The Conservative balls up was their own fault and was a national recession...

 

[ILIKECANDLES]

says the total and utter tool that has been banned from this site loads we all thought for good .....

Says the anal **** with no style or class and , worse of all, this anal **** votes Tory.

 

[ILIKECANDLES]

THIS is what people seem to forget.
Yes, Labour screwed up, but at least it wasn't entirely their fault. Admittedly their spending plan was a bit hit and miss, but if America goes into a recession the entire world is pretty much f***ed.
The Conservative balls up was their own fault and was a national recession...

This