IF we play 1 up front sunday

[GoldWithFalmer]

I can't believe I have to explain this as it's really simple. Derby's strength is counter attacking. If we throw players forward from the first minute we will leave ourselves exposed in defence and probably lose heavily. So we play our usual away tactics and try to score from a break away or set piece. Last 20/30 minutes, if we're still behind, then go for it.

Also, as I said in my last post, we don't know if CMS can last 60 minutes (let alone possibly 120) so he will probably start on the bench.

Finchley,you don't have to explain,i am banging the drum,perhaps we could play a sweeper in the first hour....

 

[Hyperion]

I think the bigger concern is making sure we get players in the right area when we do attack.

Having one up front is not a desire for failure at a all. Odd logic by the OP

 

[sebtucknott]

Friday? Thursday surely.

Oops! These Friday games and bank holidays have thrown me!

 

[BensGrandad]

No question of if we play 1 up front, we will set up to play as we have done all season with 1 up front supported by runners from deep.

 

[MattBackHome]

Then we do not want promotion-

The goal scored at forest on the last day of the season came as a direct result of 2 genuine out and out striker/forwards telepathically linking up..

I don't want to see caution i want to see us fly at them from the off,otherwise we will lose probably by a high score,once heads drop.

We have nothing to lose so lets just restore some pride and beat them,for if they beat us 4 times in 1 season that's got to hurt the players,i hope the players are hurting at the moment and want some payback..

So whoever tells Oscar what to do( ) please listen and tell him to play CMS from start.

I respectfully disagree with all of this.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Imagine if all the world class managers in the world knew this amazing secret formula- the more strikers you play, the more goals you score.

We finished in 6th by playing a system that Oscar feels gets the best out of the players we have. We've done it all season and we've for to where we wanted to be, beating some of the top teams in the division. So, tell me why, on the most important game of the season, we should now decide to change it and do something completely different that we don't have a whole season's experience at and we don't practice week in, week out, and the players don't know their jobs exactly because they've been drilled in them over and over and over again.

Explain to me how throwing away a whole season's planning is a better option. Let me guess, you can't, because you don't understand why we play one up front in the first place, and you don't understand how a football team with one striker is not necessarily any less
attacking as a football team with two strikers.

I stated in post 6 that our normal game has taken us to 6th....i am asking a question as to a possible change of formation might or might not benefit us..

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

I respectfully disagree with all of this.

I hope this gets bounced tomorrow and i am made to look the fool,so be it,but any team that is so inflexible with it's tactic's becomes predictable.

 

[Lethargic]

It's not playing 1 up front that is the problem it's the fact that by the time the 2 supporting attackers get up to support him the opposition have counter attacked, had lunch and got the bus home. The Supporting players are just too slow to get in the danger areas and the midfield are still having a picnic in the centre circle.

 

[spoonie]

If it's still 0-0 with 25 to play I'd take that right now !

 

[Icy Gull]

The two upfront aficionados are likely to be disappointed and frustrated for the foreseeable future, you are flogging a dead horse. Oscar is not going to change the system to suit you.

 

[BBassic]

Then we need to spend in the summer and spend big on pace at the back and central midfield and also get rid of a few of the forwards at this club....

You mean get rid of one or both of Ulloa and CMS?

That would leave us with the injured Hoskins. Seems pretty risky to me.

 

[Hugo Rune]

I don't understand why people expect us to change our system. What we do is pretty much set in stone. The only way we'll be playing two up front is if we need a goal 15 minutes from time. 1 up front works well for us.

No. I agree with the OP to an extent. Derby have beaten us 3 times this season because they they are brilliant in two areas, defence and quick decisive breaks. Our style (lots of possession/crosses) suits them perfectly. We need to tweak something and play in a way they are not expecting. We have NO PACE at the back to deal with their breaks and we don't have enough firepower up front to score more than a goal a game. 3 at the back? 2 up front? The return of Rohan? I don't know but if we set up the same way, Derby will beat us by 2 or 3.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

It's not playing 1 up front that is the problem it's the fact that by the time the 2 supporting attackers get up to support him the opposition have counter attacked, had lunch and got the bus home. The Supporting players are just too slow to get in the danger areas and the midfield are still having a picnic in the centre circle.

I think your right,unless we have real pace & quality when going forward out wide,1 up front should be reserved for when we want to hold onto a lead.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

You mean get rid of one or both of Ulloa and CMS?

That would leave us with the injured Hoskins. Seems pretty risky to me.

Keep Ulloa the rest are not required.......i'm tongue in cheek with my replies

 

[BensGrandad]

I hope this gets bounced tomorrow and i am made to look the fool,so be it,but any team that is so inflexible with it's tactic's becomes predictable.

That is the only good point in this suggestion that Derby wouldnt be expecting 2 up front so could be caught out but still cant see it happening until at least the 75h miniute.

 

[Working class pride]

We are 2-1 down with 90 minutes to play. Away goals dont count. We dont want to give goals away and be out of the tie by half time. We need to keep the ball as when they dont have it, they cant score. We need to press and be patient. Less deep crosses to nobody, the wingers need to either cut inside or get down to the goal line to cut it back. We need to pop the ball around the box, have Ulloa make intelligent runs, win free kicks, push it into the box and then wait for a stupid challenge and also create shooting chances and hit them low and on target. I also bloody hope they start mixing up corners with near post flick ons. That is how we will win the tie, not by picking 2 forwards, lumping the ball long and having our players run around like headless chickens.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

That is the only good point in this suggestion that Derby wouldnt be expecting 2 up front so could be caught out but still cant see it happening until at least the 75h miniute.

Your right and it will be as normal,but we are set in stone and Derby find us easy to play against,were we to go far more direct and catch them by surprise then we could have a chance,but unless they get the jitters or have a bad day or we play really really well,i cannot see us going any further and that's a shame.

Like i said,the one player on the pitch at Forest who could do what CMS did and find Ulloa with that cross was CMS..

We need to win,we need to be tight so on and so forth,but we also must score.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Two up front does not work in modern football, the midfield would be completely over run. Derby controlled the midfield enough on Friday

They only controlled the midfield on the break. For the rest of the match, they let us have the midfield concentrating on getting 8 players behind the ball (quite deep) or getting 8 players in and around our box in seconds of us losing possession. They knew we don't score a lot of goals (especially against lower league teams who are a lot more defensive) which gave them the luxury of sitting back absorbing the pressure. I'd like to see someone playing closer to Ulloa tomorrow but not necessarily a striker/CMS.

 

[Giraffe]

We have played one up front in he last five away games, and have scored ten goals, that's two a game, i'll take that thanks.

 

[Napper]

Derby are the top scorers in the league. Fight fire with fire and get burnt.

Keep it tight for as long as possible and withstand the certain waves of Derby attacks . We only need a goal and our away record at the good side / all sides is good.

If we change it drastically now then on a hiding to nothing. Lets keep fait with the system that got us into the play offs .

The longer it goes without Derby winning then the more I can see us coming on strong.

Bit of luck and do able.

Believe