If a football club's fans behave like these RUDDY students (Merged)

[Brighton Breezy]

They would be thrown out of the league. Or at least heavily fined.

I am all for protests - in fact I think we, as a country, should do it more - but keep it peaceful and don't just use it as an excuse to play freedom fighter for an afternoon.

 

[Simster]

Isn't it just a few bad eggs spoiling their otherwise spotless image?

 

[Badger]

I think you'll find the vast majority of the troublemakers aren't students

 

[Rookie]

Absolute scum, throwing stuff at the police horses.

 

[clippedgull]

Absolute scum, throwing stuff at the police horses.

This.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

I imagine a few rabble-rousers are non students. No doubt a few unionists and the odd anarchist.

That said, I doubt it takes much to get a few teenagers over excited and joining in.

They'll all vote Tory in five years...

 

[sam86]

Absolute scum, throwing stuff at the police horses.

Have you seen pictures/videos of this? Terrible if so

 

[Rookie]

Have you seen pictures/videos of this? Terrible if so

yep was on Sky News about 20/30 minutes ago.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Reports of snooker balls being LUZZED at police horses.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Live streaming here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11566509

Fully support their protest, but not in this way.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

I think you'll find the vast majority of the troublemakers aren't students

They can't be students .... a) They're out of bed and b) Countdown is on.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Also couldn't help but chuckle at the irony of students glueing themselves to the wall of Topshop - where students spend SHED LOADS of wonga - in digust at the firm's tax evasion techniques...

 

[Dr Q]

Bang another grand on the fees to pay for the mess they're making!

 

[Brighton Breezy]

I covered one of the previous demos. As I said, I very much support their plight, but they don't help themselves.

A Lib Dem fella asked them what their alternative was while they canted "No ifs, no buts, no education cuts". They shouted: "Make the rich pay".

 

[Spiros]

When I was a uni student this sort of protest used to really piss me off. OK, so they want to get further education but who the hell is going to pay for it if they don't? A significant number of students think that the world owes them sufficient living such that they can go on the lash every night, stuff themselves with takeaways, attend 16 hours of lectures a week and still the government (ie society's taxpayers) should pick up the tab. Well I didn't think it right when I was a scruffy, longhaired pisshead and I certainly don't think it right now. OK, my tuition fees were paid for in my day, but if the system had been such that I had to pay back the cost of teaching I would not have had a problem with that. And no, I don't come from a rich (or even well-off) family, just one with the attitude that most things in life are not free, they have to be earnt and paid for, usually by yourself.

 

[Dave the OAP]

turn the water cannons on them...it would kill two birds with one stone....it would WASH them and would also calm them down, especially as its cold.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

turn the water cannons on them...it would kill two birds with one stone....it would WASH them and would also calm them down, especially as its cold.

this

 

[Grendel]

I think you'll find the vast majority of the troublemakers aren't students

This line's been trotted out like a mantra by students, and those sympathetic to them, throughout these demonstrations without any evidence whatsoever to back it up.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

When I was a uni student this sort of protest used to really piss me off. OK, so they want to get further education but who the hell is going to pay for it if they don't? A significant number of students think that the world owes them sufficient living such that they can go on the lash every night, stuff themselves with takeaways, attend 16 hours of lectures a week and still the government (ie society's taxpayers) should pick up the tab. Well I didn't think it right when I was a scruffy, longhaired pisshead and I certainly don't think it right now. OK, my tuition fees were paid for in my day, but if the system had been such that I had to pay back the cost of teaching I would not have had a problem with that. And no, I don't come from a rich (or even well-off) family, just one with the attitude that most things in life are not free, they have to be earnt and paid for, usually by yourself.

Very easy to say when, as you point out, you did get it for free. I would point out that:

1. You've hit the nail on the head with what a lot of the younger generations feel - that basically the previous generation had the welfare state and the chance for social mobility, and now they've got it they don't really give a toss about the next one - quite happy to see massive student debts, impossibly high property ladders etc.

2. The assumption here is that university students will go on to earn massive bucks - whereas in reality there are a lot of massively important vocations that require a degree yet pay less than 20k.

3. Its fair enough to say you have to pay for things but, when things are paid for, there are ultimately always going to be those who are unable to afford them (or are put off by the price). Do you really want future generations of doctors, teachers, nurses, military leaders, politicians to be those who can afford it, rather than those who would be the most talented?

 

[sam86]

1617: A police officer has sustained a serious neck injury after being knocked unconscious, the BBC's Andy Tighe reports. He has been taken to hospital.

He's just trying to do his job, and earn a living