I know ALL old people are shit drivers but what is it they don't get about...

[Skint Gull]

.... MINI ROUNDABOUTS (or even normal ones to be honest)


Outside my shop there is a very simple, 3 way mini roundabout. At least once a week some stupid old twat pulls out onto the junction when he shouldn't and gets t-boned by an innocent motorist heading straight on.

What's so confusing? Give way to the RIGHT you pillocks!








And while i'm having a go can all old farts please stop cutting from left lane to right land and back to left lane on normal roundabouts, driving 10 below the limit, stoping at junctions even when there's nothing coming, 'generously' letting all 26 cars waiting to come out of a side road out and various other highly irritating things i've no doubt forgotten!

 

[Easy 10]

When I come to Power, I am going to ban ALL mini-roundabouts at t-junctions, because they are completely and utterly f***ing POINTLESS. They actually CREATE problems where previously none existed.

I regularly drive straight over them or on the wrong side of them.

 

[glasfryn]

.... MINI ROUNDABOUTS (or even normal ones to be honest)


Outside my shop there is a very simple, 3 way mini roundabout. At least once a week some stupid old twat pulls out onto the junction when he shouldn't and gets t-boned by an innocent motorist heading straight on.

What's so confusing? Give way to the RIGHT you pillocks!








And while i'm having a go can all old farts please stop cutting from left lane to right land and back to left lane on normal roundabouts, driving 10 below the limit, stoping at junctions even when there's nothing coming, 'generously' letting all 26 cars waiting to come out of a side road out and various other highly irritating things i've no doubt forgotten!

try telling all Welsh drivers this................my wife is 64 and passed her advanced some years ago.and never had a prang even while in Brighton even when it was the other twats fault.
are you always ageist.

 

[Easy 10]

Cor, look at this blokes CHIN.

 

[Trufflehound]

I regularly drive straight over them or on the wrong side of them.

But then you are old, so I guess you're covered by the thread title...




...as am I.

 

[Easy 10]

But then you are old, so I guess you're covered by the thread title...




...as am I.

Its more the fact that I am rather obnoxious I think. Here, look at this. I was bored one afternoon, so I wrote to the council.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to you with regard to the numerous traffic calming schemes which have been implemented around the Portslade and Southwick area during the course of this year, in an effort to gain some form of understanding into the thought processes which have resulted in these schemes being inflicted on motorists throughout the county. I will cite for you some specific examples which, frankly, I find bewildering, and would greatly appreciate an explanation of why they have been introduced, along with an idea of the cost of each example.

1. The mini-roundabout at the junction of Manor Hall Road and South Street.
Previously a simple t-junction, I had never experienced any problems of congestion or danger here, and traffic flow seemed to cope perfectly adequately. However, since the mini-roundabout has been installed, I have had a near collision when driving south down South Street, when a driver coming the other way decided to turn right without indicating. Not to mention that most vehicles seem to bounce straight over it anyway. In my opinion, an utterly pointless roundabout. I would be fascinated to hear why someone felt the need to put one there.

2. The mini-roundabout at the junction of Gardner Road and West Road.
Again, this was previously a t-junction. The volume of traffic at this junction can in no way justify the need for any kind of roundabout, so I can only assume it has been installed in an effort to slow down traffic which is passing the nearby Fishersgate First School. If that was the intention, it has utterly failed. I have witnessed cars driving straight over this roundabout when travelling east, and I have seen cars swerve onto the opposite side of the road when travelling west, neither manoeuvre having any discernable impact on their speed. Far from improving safety in this area, that roundabout is actually causing even more hazardous driving.

3. The speed humps along The Gardens.
Installed presumably to slow cars down. Except whoever laid those humps clearly has no idea how traffic makes its way along that road. Owing to the fact that cars are parked on both sides all the way along, it is only possible to drive directly down the middle of that road, and as its so narrow, there is only room for one car at a time to do that. The speed humps have been divided into three sections, spreading across the road. The two humps either side are permanently parked on. The humps that are smack in the middle of the road have NO impact on the cars speed whatsoever, as it passes directly underneath the car, barely brushing the inside of the tyres. These speed humps are completely, totally and utterly ineffective – they might just as well not be there at all.

4. The little row of red bricks embedded in the road by the traffic lights, next to the 40 yard green cycle lane where Gardner Road meets The Gardens.
Just one question. Why ??

5. The speed humps in Graham Avenue
I completely fail to see why a speed hump needs to be built at the t-junction of Graham Avenue and Chalky Road. Vehicles MUST slow down and stop at a t-junction anyway. Nobody goes tearing up to a t-junction and drives straight through without stopping to look left and right first. And anyone stupid (or drunk) enough to do so is hardly going to pay a blind bit of notice to a speed hump there anyway ! Bewildering.


Those are just a few examples off the top of my head which I would like an answer to. I realise that you cannot always be held directly to account for poor or dangerous driving habits employed by some drivers in negotiating these obstacles. But it is an undeniable fact that ill-conceived and ineffective attempts at slowing down traffic is inevitably contributing to more cases of dangerous driving out of laziness and / or frustration caused to drivers by some of these schemes. That, in some cases, is creating danger where previously there was none.

As it is already a known fact that only a tiny proportion of the Road Tax we pay to the government is actually spent on roads, I can only assume that these local traffic schemes are being funded largely through Council Tax contributions. As my Council Tax has steadily risen over the years to its current level (aided by an 18% hike this year), I feel justified in requesting a financial breakdown to show exactly how much of our money you are spending on these traffic calming schemes. I would also like to know precisely why someone has felt the need to suddenly inflict so many speed humps, roundabouts, chicanes and mysterious red bricks on our roads over the last 12 months or so, when there has been no obvious jump in the number of road traffic accidents occurring in the area to justify this.

Thank you for taking the time to read this letter, and I look forward to your reply with great interest.
Yours sincerely,


E 10

 

[Easy 10]

Cor.
That killed this thread STONE dead.

 

[Djmiles]

SOME mini-roundabouts at T-junctions work, can only think of one however.

 

[captainmorganrum]

....and I look forward to your reply with great interest.

What did they say, what did they say?
Don't leave us hanging.
:suspectsheknowstheanswer:

 

[Dave the OAP]

whilst we are at it two things:

1. At the top of the hill on the A23 where it goes from 3 lanes into two, by handcross, there is a selection of signs that tell you that in xxx yards, the third lane merges into 2......there is a f***ing BIG ARROW POINTING LEFT painted on the road. That means when you are in the outside lane, when you have a chance, slow down, indicate left and someone will let you in....IT DOESNT MEAN SPEED UP UNTIL YOU GET TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU RUN OUT OF ROAD, SWERVE IN AND THEN CAUSE EVERYONE ELSE BEHIND YOU TO BRAKE AND YESTERDAY, THREE PEOPLE TO COLIDE!!! YOU BRAINLESS IGNORANT RED BMW DRIVING ****.( with a B&HA Kit in the back window)

2. When you come down the A23 and want to go on to the A27, there is plenty of time to slow down, indicate that you need to go into the left hand lane then wait for a gap and ease yourself accross. DO NOT HURTLE DOWN AT 90 MPH IN THE WET TILL THE LAST MINUTE, HURL YOUR VAN CAR LORRY INTO THE LEFT HAND LANE AND CAUSE OTHER PEOPLE TO BRAKE, THEREBY CAUSING AN ACCIDENT.........you see the pattern here?

After travelling on the train for 8 years, I now drive 300 odd miles a week and the drivers on teh A23 must be the maddest fuckers in England

 

[Easy 10]

What did they say, what did they say?
Don't leave us hanging.
:suspectsheknowstheanswer:

They just passed the buck. Some old crap about the Highways Agency being involved, or somesuch.

 

[Dr Q]

I reckon the majority of drivers in the Leeds area are worse, seem to think that the car on the round about is the one that should give way, as they pull out in front of you at the last minute, invariably whilst they are on the phone! Or they can't keep within their lane whilst they go round the roundabout.


What GW says above is also true, theres a big hill coming out of Otley that regulalry sees pile ups at the top where it goes from one lane to two. Tuesday morning this week, a bit snowy, so generally slow, inside lane very slow, but outside overtaking lane also fairly slow. **** in a VW goes up the single "down" lane (crossing the double soild white lines) @ 60/70 mph to overtake all the traffic and then dive in at the last minute. cue lots of horn sounding and someone getting out and having a rant at the next set of lights. What a

 

[Trufflehound]

They just passed the buck. Some old crap about the Highways Agency being involved, or somesuch.

Presumably sent you to the Circumlocution Office*...?











(*Disclaimer: those who are not watching and have not read Little Dorrit will not know what the f*** I am on about)

 

[Easy 10]

You're right Truff. I don't know what the f*** you are on about.

 

[vegster]

.... MINI ROUNDABOUTS (or even normal ones to be honest)


Outside my shop there is a very simple, 3 way mini roundabout. At least once a week some stupid old twat pulls out onto the junction when he shouldn't and gets t-boned by an innocent motorist heading straight on.

What's so confusing? Give way to the RIGHT you pillocks!







And while i'm having a go can all old farts please stop cutting from left lane to right land and back to left lane on normal roundabouts, driving 10 below the limit, stoping at junctions even when there's nothing coming, 'generously' letting all 26 cars waiting to come out of a side road out and various other highly irritating things i've no doubt forgotten!

I regularly approch a nearby mini roundabout to be confronted by cars at the other 3 entrances... Its so funny watching them all look at each other and not knowing what to do... I go first and leave them sitting there thinking.... My big beef with crap drivers is those idiot who A, Do not adjust their headlights and B, the twats who cannot drive without all 4 ( Sometimes more !) headlights and foglights on. I sometimes feel like I've got the frickin' Mothership from Close Encounters 6 feet off my tailpipe ..... tossers

 

[gullshark]

whilst we are at it two things:

1. At the top of the hill on the A23 where it goes from 3 lanes into two, by handcross, there is a selection of signs that tell you that in xxx yards, the third lane merges into 2......there is a f***ing BIG ARROW POINTING LEFT painted on the road. That means when you are in the outside lane, when you have a chance, slow down, indicate left and someone will let you in....IT DOESNT MEAN SPEED UP UNTIL YOU GET TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU RUN OUT OF ROAD, SWERVE IN AND THEN CAUSE EVERYONE ELSE BEHIND YOU TO BRAKE AND YESTERDAY, THREE PEOPLE TO COLIDE!!! YOU BRAINLESS IGNORANT RED BMW DRIVING ****.( with a B&HA Kit in the back window)

2. When you come down the A23 and want to go on to the A27, there is plenty of time to slow down, indicate that you need to go into the left hand lane then wait for a gap and ease yourself accross. DO NOT HURTLE DOWN AT 90 MPH IN THE WET TILL THE LAST MINUTE, HURL YOUR VAN CAR LORRY INTO THE LEFT HAND LANE AND CAUSE OTHER PEOPLE TO BRAKE, THEREBY CAUSING AN ACCIDENT.........you see the pattern here?

After travelling on the train for 8 years, I now drive 300 odd miles a week and the drivers on teh A23 must be the maddest fuckers in England

You do realise the highway code says you should proceed as far as possible before merging, right? The amount of times I see cars queueing for miles and miles due to a lane closure on the M25 when it's perfectly acceptable to carry on up the lane until it's closed then safely merge in. What on earth is the point having a 10 mile long traffic jam?

The swerving in and cutting up however is stupid.

 

[Uncle C]

I know ALL old people are shit drivers

Your opening 8 words kills your credibility stone dead.

Please ask yourself why the cost of insurance for young people is prohibitive, and insurance premiums shrink as you pass the age of 50.
Oh yes of course, its because young people are safe drivers - why didn't I think of that?

 

[Notters]

.... MINI ROUNDABOUTS (or even normal ones to be honest)


What's so confusing? Give way to the RIGHT you pillocks!

Actually, you only have to give way to the right for people on the roundabout, as with all roundabouts. If they're approaching it at 30mph, but you get to the roundabout first then your in the right. The person approaching the roundabout too quickly is in the wrong. I agree though, mini-roundabouts are stupid.

 

[Easy 10]

Actually, you only have to give way to the right for people on the roundabout, as with all roundabouts. If they're approaching it at 30mph, but you get to the roundabout first then your in the right. The person approaching the roundabout too quickly is in the wrong. I agree though, mini-roundabouts are stupid.

No wonder these things regularly cause CARNAGE.
The person on the right (or opposite but is turning right) has right of way. Thats it.

 

[Clothes Peg]

They just passed the buck. Some old crap about the Highways Agency being involved, or somesuch.

No mention of the Section 106 budget?