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I have not felt this low since McGhee tenure



Skaville

Well-known member
Jun 10, 2004
10,237
Queens Park
It's nowhere near as bad now as it was in the last few months of McGhee's reign, We are still only a handful of games into Adams reign, and he needs time to bring through his idea's and to realise what the teams weaknesses are and what he needs to work on.

The only real big difference so far between the start of Adams spells are from the fans, we have got from happy to have the team back and didn't really care too much just how we played and where we finished but now the fans expect instant success and demand that we play premier league quality football, with promotion the only thing that may actually make those fans happy (if only for a short while)

When he took over last time the side were DIRE. He worked bloody miracles, made some unbeliveable signings that became the backbone of the side for five or six seasons and constructed a team that were a division ahead of themselves.

The situation is different this time. The side did not need major surgery. It needed tweaking, someone who could get the best out of the players, add a bit of nous, bring in a couple of great first teamers, a couple of squad players and secure a play off spot.

The scary thing is that someone who had such a midas touch eight years ago can look so bereft of ideas, so lacking tactically. What has he learnt since he has been away and where is the passion? If Paul Brooker is the answer, WTF is the question?

I just don't see MA as the saviour this time around.
 






Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
I have far less faith in MA than I had in McGhee at this level
 


Knotty

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Feb 5, 2004
2,421
Canterbury
Am I alone in feeling so low at the moment in regards to Albion, I feel as low as when McGhee was at the helm and everything was crashing down around us. I really hope we are not going to go into another free fall like at the end of his reign but I feel quite pessimistic about it.

Recent home results, combined with player disruption, injury prone players, Lynch's short yet more than likely permanent departure. Inevitability of Knights' statement that Adams was better suited to taking the club and squad forward compared to Wilkins coming back to haunt us.

I now sense a drumming at home to Man City, which will further wreak havoc amongst the fragile confidence our team has at home.

Someone cheer me up!

Don't worry, I've felt a lot lower about the Albion on many, many occasions in the last 50 years and I fully expect to do so again in the future before I go to the great Goldstone in the sky!

The great thing is that amongst all the very average times there have been the occasional real highs and they make it all worth while. There will be some of those in the future too.
 








Seagull73

Sienna's Heaven
Jul 26, 2003
3,382
Not Lewes
I just don't see MA as the saviour this time around.

Saviour from what exactly? Just what exactly is there to be saved 7 games into a season. Yes Saturday was disappointing, no question about that, but let me cast your mind back:

Mark McGhee's first home game in charge? 0-1 v Stockport. Next home game? 1-4 v Bristol City.

Dean Wilkins first home game after confirming permanent managers job? Remember the 0-3 horror show on TV v Blackpool?

Granted, home performances are suffering, but give the guy a bloody chance. He is trying to rebuild something that he believes will be the future. If he's done it once, who's to say he can't do it again. But it took him time last time, it may take time again.

Get some perspective, FFS.
 


Skaville

Well-known member
Jun 10, 2004
10,237
Queens Park
Saviour from what exactly? Just what exactly is there to be saved 7 games into a season. Yes Saturday was disappointing, no question about that, but let me cast your mind back:

Mark McGhee's first home game in charge? 0-1 v Stockport. Next home game? 1-4 v Bristol City.

Dean Wilkins first home game after confirming permanent managers job? Remember the 0-3 horror show on TV v Blackpool?

Granted, home performances are suffering, but give the guy a bloody chance. He is trying to rebuild something that he believes will be the future. If he's done it once, who's to say he can't do it again. But it took him time last time, it may take time again.

Get some perspective, FFS.

Fair point about the previous managers, but McGheee took over after Bookers disasterous caretaker spell and Wilkins took on McGhee's dispirited squad. It's not the same this time around for Mickey (which was my point in my initial post). Isn't finishing 7th last season some perspective?
 




Skaville

Well-known member
Jun 10, 2004
10,237
Queens Park
Saviour from what exactly? Just what exactly is there to be saved 7 games into a season. Yes Saturday was disappointing, no question about that, but let me cast your mind back:

Mark McGhee's first home game in charge? 0-1 v Stockport. Next home game? 1-4 v Bristol City.

Dean Wilkins first home game after confirming permanent managers job? Remember the 0-3 horror show on TV v Blackpool?

Granted, home performances are suffering, but give the guy a bloody chance. He is trying to rebuild something that he believes will be the future. If he's done it once, who's to say he can't do it again. But it took him time last time, it may take time again.

Get some perspective, FFS.

Fair point about the previous managers, but McGheee took over after Bookers disasterous caretaker spell and Wilkins took on McGhee's dispirited squad. It's not the same this time around for Mickey (which was my point in my initial post). Isn't finishing 7th last season some perspective?
 




Seagull73

Sienna's Heaven
Jul 26, 2003
3,382
Not Lewes
Fair point about the previous managers, but McGheee took over after Bookers disasterous caretaker spell and Wilkins took on McGhee's dispirited squad. It's not the same this time around for Mickey (which was my point in my initial post). Isn't finishing 7th last season some perspective?


If we are to believe the rumours, wasn't Adams inheriting a disprited squad? And much depleted I should add.

And yes, you've summed up yourself, FINISHING 7th last season. We've still got another 39 games to go.

Just one other thing, after 7 games in the Div 3 championship winning season, we had 10 points - go figure where I am going with that.
 




BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
If we are to believe the rumours, wasn't Adams inheriting a disprited squad? And much depleted I should add.

And yes, you've summed up yourself, FINISHING 7th last season. We've still got another 39 games to go.

Just one other thing, after 7 games in the Div 3 championship winning season, we had 10 points - go figure where I am going with that.

Well he actually didnt inherit any dispirited players, those that you allude to were only dispirited because Wilkins rightly thought that he needed to move those senior players on.

Adams and Knight in their infinate wisdom re-instated those players who became eternally grateful to them both, absolutely not dispirited, that's an excuse that needs to be scrubbed off your list !!
 




Skaville

Well-known member
Jun 10, 2004
10,237
Queens Park
If we are to believe the rumours, wasn't Adams inheriting a disprited squad? And much depleted I should add.

And yes, you've summed up yourself, FINISHING 7th last season. We've still got another 39 games to go.

Just one other thing, after 7 games in the Div 3 championship winning season, we had 10 points - go figure where I am going with that.

Dispirited? No, I don't believe that. The only one who has hinted at being unhappy was Glenn Murray.

Much depleted? Well yes, the fat had been trimmed, only for Adams to go and resign them. He had a lot of scope to bring in the right players, given the reductions on the wage bill.

Again, fair enough on your final point. I still think he looks bereft of ideas and tactically inept. He doesn't appear anywhere near as motivated to me.

Believe me, I would rather be wrong and time prove you right. We'll see.
 




bristolseagull

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
5,554
Lindfield
Am I alone in feeling so low at the moment in regards to Albion, I feel as low as when McGhee was at the helm and everything was crashing down around us. I really hope we are not going to go into another free fall like at the end of his reign but I feel quite pessimistic about it.

Recent home results, combined with player disruption, injury prone players, Lynch's short yet more than likely permanent departure. Inevitability of Knights' statement that Adams was better suited to taking the club and squad forward compared to Wilkins coming back to haunt us.

I now sense a drumming at home to Man City, which will further wreak havoc amongst the fragile confidence our team has at home.

Someone cheer me up!


you are either 15 or have a bloody short memory.


I can assure things have been a lot worse, get a grip.....
 


eastlondonseagull

Well-known member
Jan 15, 2004
13,385
West Yorkshire
Am I alone in feeling so low at the moment in regards to Albion, I feel as low as when McGhee was at the helm and everything was crashing down around us. I really hope we are not going to go into another free fall like at the end of his reign but I feel quite pessimistic about it.

Recent home results, combined with player disruption, injury prone players, Lynch's short yet more than likely permanent departure. Inevitability of Knights' statement that Adams was better suited to taking the club and squad forward compared to Wilkins coming back to haunt us.

I now sense a drumming at home to Man City, which will further wreak havoc amongst the fragile confidence our team has at home.

Someone cheer me up!


I'm feeling CONFIDENT all of a sudden - North Stand Chat

:clap2:

.
 


Brian Fantana

Well-known member
Oct 8, 2006
7,552
In the field
I would honestly rather have Mark McGhee in charge.


Would you? Would you really? Or are you saying it because of the relative success that he has had in Scotland?

Can you not remember what the last few months of his reign were like?

We are a sixth of the way into the season ffs, what are we possibly going to achieve by calling for the manager's head.

The answer is further disunity, further upheavel and an increased danger of relegation.

Get behind the board, get behind the team and show people that we care.
 


eastlondonseagull

Well-known member
Jan 15, 2004
13,385
West Yorkshire
Would you? Would you really? Or are you saying it because of the relative success that he has had in Scotland?

Can you not remember what the last few months of his reign were like?

We are a sixth of the way into the season ffs, what are we possibly going to achieve by calling for the manager's head.

The answer is further disunity, further upheavel and an increased danger of relegation.

Get behind the board, get behind the team and show people that we care.

Absolutely :clap:

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Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Can you not remember what the last few months of his reign were like?

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All of those bar one month in a division above where we are now. Correct me if I'm wrong but the only games we lost in the season he was sacked were against teams that went on to get promoted.

I'd MUCH rather McGhee was in charge as well

Let's not forget Adams has a team that did well last season and he has brought his own players in this season as well but he is doing shit at the moment FACT. It may of course all change, I hope it does.

Good at Crewe, a little lucky at Southend but good all the same, Ok at Yeovil, absolute pants in all the home league games. The warning signs are there, ignore them if you choose but please don't slag off fans that aren't happy
 
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