Hughton: "I have no doubts we'll be ready come that first game of the season."

[Thunder Bolt]

Please see my point about players needing time to gel in pre-season (especially when you need to bring in so many players because you ****ed up the season before).

Did you not see what happened as a result of leaving it late last season?

Watford managed to get promotion with 5 different managers last season. All this nonsense about gelling, is just that, nonsense.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Watford managed to get promotion with 5 different managers last season. All this nonsense about gelling, is just that, nonsense.

That will give Ernest ideas.

 

[westsussexseagulls]

I disagree with almost everything you've put here but that's football.

Personally I enjoyed our romp to 4th with a goal difference of +26! If you found that a boring season I imagine Oscar Garcia and Sami Hyypia put you into an unresponsive coma!

And as for bad recruitment, perhaps you're not giving Gus enough credit for his excellent recruitment? He brought in Gordon Greer, Radostin Kishishev, Liam Bridcutt, (Admitedly Marmite but now playing in the top flight) Ashley Barnes, Will Buckley, a chap called Vicente, Íñigo Calderón, Tomasz Kuszczak..

People like to point out the handful of duds he signed but when you compare it to our recruitment post-Poyet it's fades into insignificance.

Oh and as for ''very good over a couple of seasons but rarely won." - he took us from the bottom end of League One to the Championship play-offs with a win rate of 44%. That's incredible.

Totally agree with this, the most dominant Brighton team I have seen. Felt that we could beat anyone at home and was great to watch

 

[Biscuit]

Watford managed to get promotion with 5 different managers last season. All this nonsense about gelling, is just that, nonsense.

Watford cheated though. They kept using their 'new manager power boost' every two months. That's not fair!

 

[Justice]

Watford managed to get promotion with 5 different managers last season. All this nonsense about gelling, is just that, nonsense.

Agree that's an excuse for poor managers who have recruited badly.

 

[Knotty]

http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/11448038.Bloom__We_have_squad_to_go_up/

This is what he told the Argus in September last year " Bloom: We have a squad to go up"

“That is our No.1 goal this season and I certainly think we have got the squad which could get there.”

Now how do you want the fans to interpret the Chairman's expectations or hopes or whatever you want to call it?

Nothing in his statement promised, guaranteed or expected promotion. If fans are naive enough to read that into it, that's their problem.

Hope and expectation are very different things.

He was, of course, clearly wrong about the quality of the squad, but he didn't promise promotion.

 

[spanish flair]

Nothing in his statement promised, guaranteed or expected promotion. If fans are naive enough to read that into it, that's their problem.

Hope and expectation are very different things.

He was, of course, clearly wrong about the quality of the squad, but he didn't promise promotion.

Where in my post did I state he promised promotion? Fans just followed what their Chairman stated on the prospects of the following season and it turned out a disaster.

So are you actually saying our Chairman is naive with his statement?

 

[WATFORD zero]

There is no way that we are going anywhere other than bottom 3 with this squad. We have known for months what we need and yet nobody at the club seems to be doing anything, while every other club in the championship is signing proven players at this level. Hughton has to be one of the most boring managers we have ever employed with none of the flair attacking football which we became known for.

I can't see what Barber does to justify his salary and unless TB puts his hand in his pocket and signs some serious championship attackers we are only going down.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Nobody is disagreeing with that. But the number of so-called 'fans' of our club who actively enjoy being misers is fast becoming an embarrassment. Arguing amongst ourselves about which 'crew' is the worst influence in the NS. Snide, self-satisfied little digs at Barber and Bloom and the pies and FFP and queues and trains and the ticket line and loans and Nathan Jones and stewarding. Click on any thread on here. Any tweet or Facebook post by the club. What do you see? Dickheads being dickheads because they want to be able to say "I told you so" if we lose. The types who boo JFC when he's announced in the 18. The types who can't wait to go to the fans forum to moan at Bloom for not spending enough. And then there's the likes of me, neutral to the club's business, who get branded "rose-tinted spectacle wearing club lickers" because we're not throwing our toys out of the pram and wailing to the high heavens because we're not bidding for Jordan Rhodes. The same people who moaned we spent too much on CMS, want us to splash out twice as much on a "proven" name who could be just as poor, or snap a cruciate in the first game. These are the same people who moaned like spoilt brats when we were in the playoffs, and absolutely DELIGHTED themselves last season when we were struggling. The same people who slagged off Barnes to no end, and now see we could do with him back.

Here's an idea. Have a day off. Enjoy the sunshine. Have a cup of tea. Read a book. Walk the dog. Call the parents. Take up swimming. Learn Spanish. Enjoy life. Then, when the rage has subsided, meet back at the Amex in a fortnight and have a pie and a beer with your mates and a hearty sing song. Because this constant, 24/7, ever-escalating impotent angst is showing people up for the childish, petty, pitiful examples of 'adults' that they are.

The collective blood pressure of this forum would pierce the ionosphere.

Great post.

Brighton fans really do need to learn patience, realism and perspective.

https://brightononlyathome.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/patience-and-realistic-expectations-needed/

 

[WATFORD zero]

The season hasn't started yet and the window has weeks left to run. For the last 2 seasons we have taken young attacking players on loan from top clubs that we could never have afforded to buy once the premier squads are announced. 1 or 2 permanent signings and a couple of good attacking season long loans and we will be sorted. It's not ideal to do it so late, but that is the way football transfers are now. We will be working hard behind the scenes right up to the last minute.

A couple of signings and a couple of loans and we can make top 6.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Right, I'm ready for 'I told you so' at Xmas

 

[Triggaaar]

Nobody is disagreeing with that. But the number of so-called 'fans' of our club who actively enjoy being misers is fast becoming an embarrassment. Arguing amongst ourselves about which 'crew' is the worst influence in the NS. Snide, self-satisfied little digs at Barber and Bloom and the pies and FFP and queues and trains and the ticket line and loans and Nathan Jones and stewarding. Click on any thread on here. Any tweet or Facebook post by the club. What do you see? Dickheads being dickheads because they want to be able to say "I told you so" if we lose. The types who boo JFC when he's announced in the 18. The types who can't wait to go to the fans forum to moan at Bloom for not spending enough. And then there's the likes of me, neutral to the club's business, who get branded "rose-tinted spectacle wearing club lickers" because we're not throwing our toys out of the pram and wailing to the high heavens because we're not bidding for Jordan Rhodes. The same people who moaned we spent too much on CMS, want us to splash out twice as much on a "proven" name who could be just as poor, or snap a cruciate in the first game. These are the same people who moaned like spoilt brats when we were in the playoffs, and absolutely DELIGHTED themselves last season when we were struggling. The same people who slagged off Barnes to no end, and now see we could do with him back.

Here's an idea. Have a day off. Enjoy the sunshine. Have a cup of tea. Read a book. Walk the dog. Call the parents. Take up swimming. Learn Spanish. Enjoy life. Then, when the rage has subsided, meet back at the Amex in a fortnight and have a pie and a beer with your mates and a hearty sing song. Because this constant, 24/7, ever-escalating impotent angst is showing people up for the childish, petty, pitiful examples of 'adults' that they are.

The collective blood pressure of this forum would pierce the ionosphere.

Top ranting

 

[Triggaaar]

There is no way that we are going anywhere other than bottom 3 with this squad. We have known for months what we need and yet nobody at the club seems to be doing anything, while every other club in the championship is signing proven players at this level.

The season hasn't started yet and the window has weeks left to run. For the last 2 seasons we have taken young attacking players on loan from top clubs that we could never have afforded to buy once the premier squads are announced. 1 or 2 permanent signings and a couple of good attacking season long loans and we will be sorted. It's not ideal to do it so late, but that is the way football transfers are now. We will be working hard behind the scenes right up to the last minute.

A couple of signings and a couple of loans and we can make top 6.

Eh? Is WATFORD zero a shared account?

 

[LamieRobertson]

Eh? Is WATFORD zero a shared account?

One could be a Doctor

 

[Knotty]

Where in my post did I state he promised promotion? Fans just followed what their Chairman stated on the prospects of the following season and it turned out a disaster.

So are you actually saying our Chairman is naive with his statement?

No, he wasn't naive, just wrong.

You didn't say that he promised promotion but that the fans interpreted it as such.

Is it not possible for fans to keep an open mind?

 

[Working class pride]

Great post.

Brighton fans really do need to learn patience, realism and perspective.

https://brightononlyathome.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/patience-and-realistic-expectations-needed/

I disagree. The problem with Brighton and Hove Albion in the last 100 years has been a lack of ambition, expectation and desire to succeed. Many fans strangely also judge our club after it was left with no ground, second from bottom of the football league and playing in Gillingham / Withdean. The fact that this club could survive such nonsense shows the depth of support. This club has to change its mentality. I judge all clubs in an equal way and I would invite others to do so. When doing so, just ask yourself why a club who will get 23,000 to 30,000 every week for second tier football has done so little. One Charity Shield in 1910 and one FA Cup final appearance in 1983. But still the fan base is there. The problem with this club is that the footballing side of the club never, but never delivers. That is why people are negative. There is no belief for a very good reason. In fact, when it seemed the club might just for once get it right, they then hand over Glen Murray to Crystal Palace of all clubs. If this club would for once produce a successful side then the negativity will lessen. People are negative for a reason, just look at the tripe we have watched in our life times. But still we support the club. Patience? Palace didnt bother with that when they were living off 11000 paying punters and they got promoted. That is realism, and perspective, it is just a different realism and perspective to yours.

 

[Don Quixote]

It depends what we are ready for. If we are going for the top 6 then many more players will have to be brought in. If we are just trying to avoid relegation then we are probably already there.

 

[Blackadder]

We haven't really addressed the issue though have we, so no guarantees. Maybe you can tell me where the goals are coming from?

Well I'm rather hopeful that Hemed will score a few. Think Baldock will have a better season. Stephens and Crofts (when fit) may chip in with a few.

I don't think we have finished our signings yet. I guess time will tell.

 

[Knotty]

I disagree. The problem with Brighton and Hove Albion in the last 100 years has been a lack of ambition, expectation and desire to succeed. Many fans strangely also judge our club after it was left with no ground, second from bottom of the football league and playing in Gillingham / Withdean. The fact that this club could survive such nonsense shows the depth of support. This club has to change its mentality. I judge all clubs in an equal way and I would invite others to do so. When doing so, just ask yourself why a club who will get 23,000 to 30,000 every week for second tier football has done so little. One Charity Shield in 1910 and one FA Cup final appearance in 1983. But still the fan base is there. The problem with this club is that the footballing side of the club never, but never delivers. That is why people are negative. There is no belief for a very good reason. In fact, when it seemed the club might just for once get it right, they then hand over Glen Murray to Crystal Palace of all clubs. If this club would for once produce a successful side then the negativity will lessen. People are negative for a reason, just look at the tripe we have watched in our life times. But still we support the club. Patience? Palace didnt bother with that when they were living off 11000 paying punters and they got promoted. That is realism, and perspective, it is just a different realism and perspective to yours.

So your realism and perspective is that, apart from two occasions, the football has been rubbish for 100 years? Why do you bother?

 

[Albion Dan]

I think the squad we have today is a relegation waiting to happen. We're in the same old mess as last season heading toward the first game without having our business done. . How's that for perspective? For a good poker player Bloom is terrible at knowing when he needs to gamble and by how much to move this club forward and last years disastrous decision by him have set us back years.