[Travel] Hs2 v This.

[Leekbrookgull]

I am one of many here north of the Home Counties who are not impressed by Hs2,just electrify the whole network. We can't get anything like this 90mph within four mins. Stoke to Derby is an hour for thirty miles no wonder people use the A50 and drive in half the time and you can forget bus travel Leek to Hanley at £7-50 A/Rtn for a 24 mile round trip ! Rant over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KCNlPvxomM&t=303s

 

[thedonkeycentrehalf]

HS2 is a vanity project that benefits very few. If they invested that money in resolving the issues around Manchester (and replacing the Northern Rail franchise) train travel in the North would be so much better.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

You are like a human Taboola. You'll never guess what Oswald Mosley looks like now.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

The passing train causes the floodlight poles to bend as it goes by - heavy train?

 

[Worried Man Blues]

I am one of many here north of the Home Counties who are not impressed by Hs2,just electrify the whole network. We can't get anything like this 90mph within four mins. Stoke to Derby is an hour for thirty miles no wonder people use the A50 and drive in half the time and you can forget bus travel Leek to Hanley at £7-50 A/Rtn for a 24 mile round trip ! Rant over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KCNlPvxomM&t=303s

Thanks for that, did the HH to Brighton for school and then the HH to London Bridge so really enjoyed that bit. Diesel in this bit of Wales not sure if HS2 will ever happen.

 

[GOM]

I am one of many here north of the Home Counties who are not impressed by Hs2,just electrify the whole network. We can't get anything like this 90mph within four mins. Stoke to Derby is an hour for thirty miles no wonder people use the A50 and drive in half the time and you can forget bus travel Leek to Hanley at £7-50 A/Rtn for a 24 mile round trip ! Rant over.

Again, HS2 is not about speed. The east and west coast lines are at full capacity and new lines are needed to increase that.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Again, HS2 is not about speed. The east and west coast lines are at full capacity and new lines are needed to increase that.

High Speed 2 is not about speed.

 

[GOM]

High Speed 2 is not about speed.

Correct. That is a by product, after all if you are building a new line why make it slow ? Same as for HS1 (slow this side of the channel).

 

[GT49er]

I am one of many here north of the Home Counties who are not impressed by Hs2,just electrify the whole network. We can't get anything like this 90mph within four mins. Stoke to Derby is an hour for thirty miles no wonder people use the A50 and drive in half the time and you can forget bus travel Leek to Hanley at £7-50 A/Rtn for a 24 mile round trip ! Rant over.

Electrification doesn't mean faster. Cheaper to run (once installed) and cleaner, certainly, but not necessarily faster.

We have dual-power trains on the London route - electric when there are wires and diesel electric when not, and diesel electric units on the North East to South West cross country services - all can and do go up to 100mph.

 

[Madafwo]

Even Steam locos could hit 125mph, its not about the power source, it's about the infrastructure. Even the HST designed in the 70's had excellent acceleration.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

HS link between Manchester and Leeds would be WAY more beneficial to 'The Northern Powerhouse' and all its inhabitants. Current arrangements are beyond pathetic. Victorians would have just dug tunnels and built viaducts and made if happen double quick. Might have come up withsomething other than a two carriage converted bus chassis also.

Anytime I've used HS1 in recent years, off-peak, it's ZOOMED to Stratford and Ebbsfleet, then trundled pathetically slowly down to Faversham via a dozen Duck Halts.

 

[Bakero]

The passing train causes the floodlight poles to bend as it goes by - heavy train?

Is there a chance the track could bend?