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jamie the seagull

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2011
2,803
Two part Question for the steward on here.

Why was there no intervention when the Millwall fans wandered past the stewards towards the Brighton fans?

Response team needed?

Why did there appear to be such a heavy handed response to the one guy in WSL having a (verbal) pop at our Management team?

The Response team seemed to arrive pretty quickly there.

There was no intervention because the police back up were actually in the North Stand concourse. I saw them.
So you have the heavy handed approach in WSL and the rot police in the North.
Meanwhile Millwall are given 10 stewards to get round.
At each game why are there so many more stewards in the North than in the away end.
Clearly there is an agenda.
 


jamie the seagull

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2011
2,803
(Why did there appear to be such a heavy handed response to the one guy in WSL having a (verbal) pop at our Management team?)

No one should have to put up with abuse while carrying out there duties at work no matter what the form, or do you really think verbal abuse is ok.

So we are banned from abusing the players during the game?..(when they are doing their job}
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,920
Melbourne
Let's be honest about this.

To have a raucous, vocal partisan home crowd that can lift the players when required needs a level of less well mannered behaviour to be allowed at other times, on occasion etc etc.

Alternatively we can stop people swearing in front of little Johnny in EVERY area of the ground, we can ban criticism of the club heirachy, and continue to allow 'call a policeman' types to spoil our match day experience.

The club cannot encourage fans to create a cauldron of passion, and simultaneously expect them to do as they are told by Nigel in his fluro shield and Primark trainers.
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,274
Let's be honest about this.

To have a raucous, vocal partisan home crowd that can lift the players when required needs a level of less well mannered behaviour to be allowed at other times, on occasion etc etc.

Alternatively we can stop people swearing in front of little Johnny in EVERY area of the ground, we can ban criticism of the club heirachy, and continue to allow 'call a policeman' types to spoil our match day experience.

The club cannot encourage fans to create a cauldron of passion, and simultaneously expect them to do as they are told by Nigel in his fluro shield and Primark trainers.

There is a big difference between singing and cheering and just howling out foul abuse.
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,517
Worthing
Precisely this. Part of the job is dealing with drunk and/or emotional people who might give them grief, they knew that when they signed up. I don't like heights and for that very reason, I've never thought about a career as a tightrope walker.

Think of the leotard though Buzzer.
 


W.C.

New member
Oct 31, 2011
4,927
Let's be honest about this.

To have a raucous, vocal partisan home crowd that can lift the players when required needs a level of less well mannered behaviour to be allowed at other times, on occasion etc etc.

Alternatively we can stop people swearing in front of little Johnny in EVERY area of the ground, we can ban criticism of the club heirachy, and continue to allow 'call a policeman' types to spoil our match day experience.

The club cannot encourage fans to create a cauldron of passion, and simultaneously expect them to do as they are told by Nigel in his fluro shield and Primark trainers.

I thought you were going to be honest, not patronising?

Personally I find it pretty easy to shout for the team and not throw coins at people. It's not people wanting little Johnny to not hear bad words who are spoiling it for people, it's complete tw#ts who think they have some kind of licence to act how they want when they go to the football.

Stewards are always going to have to deal with situations, that's why they are there, but some people just create situations by acting like complete bell ends.

(do primark sell trainers??)
 




bravohotelalpha

Well-known member
Jan 23, 2011
2,642
Good Old Sussex By The Sea
Stewards are people?..I thought that when I was in the South West corner.
I moved to the North West and I now find them quite the opposite.(confrontational...)
If only I could make the meeting this thursday to discuss the "atmosphere"...
I actually feel like the away fan where I sit based on the number of stewards looking at you ...

All is forgiven - you are welcome back to south west corner any time ;)
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,920
Melbourne
1. Personally I find it pretty easy to shout for the team and not throw coins at people.

2. It's not people wanting little Johnny to not hear bad words who are spoiling it

1. At no point have I said that the throwing of coins, or standing on seats, is acceptable behaviour.

2. To a degree, yes it is. Football has historically been a sport for the working classes, not aimed at Guardian reading new thinking folk who really do believe that little Tarquin should be protected from the likes of old fashioned football fans who are venting their frustrations.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Could someone please explain the meaning (executing interventions at the turnstiles). I am of the understanding that the fans who were abusive etc will be refused entrance to the ground, and if so how many innocent people will be ejected or shot, without any proof of them being involved at all. Or is it going to be left to the stewards photographic memories or is it just if your face does not fit etc your not coming in pal?

I think cctv, & stewards reports will identify seat numbers, so their season ticket cards will be deactivated. I would hope that the fans would be warned by letter first, or else it could all kick off at the turnstile.
 






I thought you were going to be honest, not patronising?

Personally I find it pretty easy to shout for the team and not throw coins at people. It's not people wanting little Johnny to not hear bad words who are spoiling it for people, it's complete tw#ts who think they have some kind of licence to act how they want when they go to the football.

Stewards are always going to have to deal with situations, that's why they are there, but some people just create situations by acting like complete bell ends.

(do primark sell trainers??)

As a steward in the early 80's getting £6 per game we welcomed an extra few quid in coins.:moo:
 


Arthur

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
8,762
Buxted Harbour
Wow, what an idiotic post. Getting coins thrown at you is "part of the territory" is it? I get annoyed at away games when asked to sit as I like to stand up when watching. Never thought of chucking shit at them though.

Yes it is part of the territory, as Buzzer mentions tensions run high at football games and violence has been going on for donkeys years. If your job is crowd control then you should expect some grief from time to time. I'm not condoning it I'm just saying that it is to be expected in the same way you might get a clump round the head if you were a traffic warden.

Do bouncers go on to dance music message boards and moan about people fighting in their night clubs?
 




KneeOn

Well-known member
Jun 4, 2009
4,695
You're an idiot mate.

I'm accepting there is a risk that an idiot or two will show up. What isn't acceptable is justifying it and per missing it as something that SHOULD happen.

And actually it was implied earlier in the thread that there wasn't a problem with a steward getting coined.
 


W.C.

New member
Oct 31, 2011
4,927
1. At no point have I said that the throwing of coins, or standing on seats, is acceptable behaviour.

2. To a degree, yes it is. Football has historically been a sport for the working classes, not aimed at Guardian reading new thinking folk who really do believe that little Tarquin should be protected from the likes of old fashioned football fans who are venting their frustrations.

Your changing what the thread is about to suit yourself. And being even more patronising. Good effort!
 


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