Rugby doesn't have automated offsides. It doesn't use technology for offsides at all, other than looking at it
Incorporate automated offsides…
Yes, I'd always thought that. When they start drawing their lines on the screen to review the infamous 'toenail' offsides they analyse to the nth degree whether a tiny part of the player was in front or not. They never analyse the precise moment when the ball was played. There's a rough "Yeah, it looks like he's kicked it" and that's it, all the focus switches to the receiving player.
Pretty much what I was planning to say. Fully mic'd up refs would catch any dissent so that would stop that and it would also allow the discussion to be heard by the fans when the VAR is in progress. Agree that I think there are a number of refs who think they can use their own interpretation of the laws. We've got rid of Dean and Atkinson so just need a few more to follow. Mike Riley has a lot to answer for.
But you're saying the rugby system is good but we should add technology to it. I think the reason the rugby system works is partly to do with the almost complete lack of technology. Once you start disallowing goals/tries for inches on a computer but leave the rest of the stuff to interpretation you'd lose the point
This may sound a bit OTT, but in such major issues, similar to the breakaway european league that affect all clubs, It may well help if all the main PL fans forums could act in unison.I’m interested to know what the good people of NSC think are sensible (soccer) solutions to VAR massacring football as we know it… ?
I don’t think it’ll be abolished, but by God it needs fixing and fast. Last night was hilarious for us neutrals, but if I was a Wolves fan I’d be thinking we’ve effectively been deducted points already this season - akin to ourselves last, and it could well send them down. It’s nothing short of a disgrace.
For me, one fix would to stop slow motion replays when reviewing pens, slow motion (obviously) completely changes the ‘look’ of a given moment and any review should be subject to normal speed playback and if it’s not clear and obvious it’s not a pen or vice versa… everything looks worse in slow mo, even great goals… it’s always going to favour the attacking player as the slightest touch/contact is magnified ten fold… it’s bollocks and needs to stop.
Slow mo has a place for goal line decisions, ball in/out moments… but I’d even stop using it for marginal offsides, as again it clouds what is obvious in real time vs ridiculous slow mo.
Any other ideas ? so i can stand outside FA HQ with a cardboard placardwith a list of VAR faults … you know, like an insane person with nothing better to do
Seriously though, this HAS to stop.
Yep, make the linespeople make the call. And stay with the on field decision if not clear and obvious. No dicking about putting the flag up 20 seconds after a clear offside, just put the flag up. To tight to call and a goal is scored, then make a late decision and allow an appeal .
Also, Stockley Park is often reviewing incidents when play is still going on (ie, Forest's penalty on Saturday). Not sure I, or the players, would want to hear audio on the PA of some bloke asking Bazza if he's got a better angle while we're attacking the other end.
only if they attach gps transponders on the armpits, knee foot, head etc. you're focusing on offside, and the problems there are with the rules.
I don’t disagree, it’s just right now I suspect we (the fans) have less power than we ever have as money and commercial revenues dominate the game… I hope you’re right though, and we all stand up and vote with our feet until VAR/tech is used correctly or removed entirely.
