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How much does he regret leaving Everton?
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jonny.rainbow
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- Oct 29, 2005
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Has to be a shoe-in for the Scotland job when wee Gordon is given the heave-ho.
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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Not much I wouldn't have thought. Got the chance to manage Manchester United – despite what you view of them, one of the biggest clubs in the world – and go abroad to work in a big League. Very few managers who could say they've done that.
Those gigs might not have worked out as he thought, but then I heard Phil Brown say today that the average length of a manager's job is now a mere 15 months. That's a lot more jobs for Moyes to have in his career.
Those gigs might not have worked out as he thought, but then I heard Phil Brown say today that the average length of a manager's job is now a mere 15 months. That's a lot more jobs for Moyes to have in his career.
symyjym
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Who?
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Bad timing. The Villa job would have suited him well.
studio150
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For the wages and pay off I'm sure there are no money worries just the frustration of not winning titles
OzMike
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Not much, he would have had 2 x decent pay offs.
I did wonder how his somewhat prosaic hard working style of football would go down in Spain. Now I know.
de la zouch
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- Jul 12, 2007
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This has been a long time coming, he was looked at by Villa but they decided it was a NO.
Yup, he earned £7 million in 10 months at United.
He will be philosophical, he is not a silly man and will acknowledge the absurdity of managerial merry-go-round.
He left Man Utd after 10 months with exactly the same skill sets that prompted them to sign him in the first place, not allowing oven chips on a Friday hardly makes his man management skills defunct.
He will as with all managers roll with the punches and wait for a decent offer from a club with managed expectations and deliver them some level of success, until a set of unforeseen circumstances either delivers him failure or success.
Football management is a job where its nearly impossible to gauge the skill or competence of that manager just by results, but its exactly those results that they will be judged, booed, cheered or ultimately sacked, they know it and thats why their exit clause if they have enough kudos left in the game to demand one is so important.
He left Man Utd after 10 months with exactly the same skill sets that prompted them to sign him in the first place, not allowing oven chips on a Friday hardly makes his man management skills defunct.
He will as with all managers roll with the punches and wait for a decent offer from a club with managed expectations and deliver them some level of success, until a set of unforeseen circumstances either delivers him failure or success.
Football management is a job where its nearly impossible to gauge the skill or competence of that manager just by results, but its exactly those results that they will be judged, booed, cheered or ultimately sacked, they know it and thats why their exit clause if they have enough kudos left in the game to demand one is so important.
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I wouldn't read too much in to anyone getting sacked after a year at Real Sociedad. Moyes was there sixth manager in seven years.
BensGrandad
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A mid table Premier vacancy will come up around January that will appeal to him and the club chairman. At the worst he would take a Championship side with potential Leeds, QPR or even Blackburn.
gordonchas
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- Jul 1, 2012
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I would.
2 years ago they were playing in the Champions League (ironically against Moyes' Manchester United). Though this was an over-achievement it gives an indication of what their squad should be aspiring to. That 2013-14 they finished 7th and qualified for the Europa League. The previous coach was sacked after a bad start to last season. Moyes has been dismissed as he's had exactly the same start as the other fellow had last year. I watched their game on TV last Friday and they were abysmal. I also saw his side towards the end of last season at my own team, Elche, where they were equally unimpressive. I've never seen any recognisable style of play from them since he joined, so in that sense they have been no better than they were under his predecessor.
Whilst Real Sociedad is a selling club, they actually strengthened in the summer by re-signing Illaramendi from Real Madrid and spending 7m on Jonathas from Elche - a striker he never seemed to want to use. He only ever seemed to want to bring in new players rather than get more out of the ones they already have - surely the true test of a decent coach? What's more that's completely against the philosophy of Real Sociedad which has a fantastic record of bringing through its own players.
They have some more than decent players in the two mentioned above plus Granero, Canales, Carlos Vela, Xabi Prieto so they should be aiming towards the European places rather than the relegation zone.
Fair point.
Would be, if I had not been comprehensively owned by this post.
Excellent post, you clearly have watched more of their football than I have. I guess we will see in his next job, and how well his replacements does.
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
Yes it would, but football management being what it is. there will be plenty of other opportunities soon enough.
Difficult not to feel a bit sorry for the guy really, the Manchester United job was one that he couldn't afford to turn down, but also a poisoned chalice, albeit impossible to achieve the same degree of success as his predecessor, and with next to no time to do it in.
And as for the job in Spain, well, it's also very difficult, as past experience shows, for a British manager or player to make a success of a job in foreign climes.
I like David Moyes, one of the nicer guys in football, and I'm sure his time will come again.