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London Pompous

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Kalimantan Gull

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Well, a forerunner of NSC was used to spread the word about fans united in 97.

The giant flag was organised through NSC

Brighton reached the top of playforyourclub.com through NSC

Petitions and campaign events for Falmer were advertised and accelerated through NSC

NSC itself isn't influential, but fans are influential and here is the greatest congregation of fans outside the stadium, so in sense its influential, but only if we all think the same way. But everyone knows some people shout louder than others.


*Not all of the above situations are comparable
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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But you don't see, the club don't look on here, they take opinions from the radio show and the newspaper who take the biased opinions from here. How many articles has Naylor written using this website, whilst Harty is an active user, quotes off here sometimes and has asked Dick Knight questions which are raised on here...

Well, the media will want to ask tough qquestions and aren't fans themselves so want to know what the fans want to know. They're not interested in asking the club "So, the fans think that we have some great signings and it's only a matter of time for them to settle in and start winning games, how do you respond?"

It's not interesting, probing, newsworthy. That is giving them the answers in the question.

SCR and the Argus are meant to be/want to be how the fans get answers from the board. They take out questions to them, get the answers so we can buy their paper, listen to their station and find the answer.

What sort of positive question would create this relationship?

I don't think it's any different, in essence, than hanging around outside withdean asking the fans what they thought as they leave to find out what questions to ask the club.


I think the extent of our influence is over what questions the media asks, not over the answers they get on over the actions the club takes. Especially not on its own. The club may see us as one section, of the fans and compare what they hear from us with what they see with the Argus, with home fan reaction, away fan reaction, feedback (I imagine these "insiders" who share info with regular fans they meet on the street, or friends or whatever, are also able to take opinions from people back to the club).

I don't think what little influence NSC has is particularly bad if it leads to the right questions being asked.

MM was fired because he "lost the team" (he certainly seemed to fall out with enough of them); didn't put a strong showing in, which (rightly or wrongly) is usually expected of teams that are relegated, and Knight's loyalty to him led to the fans turning on Knight, both here and at the grounds, on the phone in, away fans reportedly being the final straw.

DW was fired for non-footballing reasons (of which many have been reported). What we said, the home fans, away fans, phone in callers, etc was not relevant.
 


Sloth loves Chunk

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Nov 14, 2003
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I think some people grossly over-estimate the influence of NSC.

It's used by a minority of our total support and a large proportion of those that do use it, are semi-literate keyboard warriers who are more concerned with massaging their own ego, than making a meaningful contribution to the debates.

Spot on.

So many deluded fools on here.
 








Bozza

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Not half as influential as some people on here would like to think it is.

Which people? Name and shame...

For what it's worth, I think NSC, like the 'main' forum of any club will always only have a small proportion of the overall supporter base. However, I think it's pretty clear there are, at a high level, 2 sets of fans...

1. Those who like to turn up, on a Saturday, see their 90 minutes of football and then largely walk away again until the next game comes about.

2. Those who, to a greater extent, live and breathe their club. It's part of their very fabric and to some extent or other the club has an influence on their day to day lives away from the matches themselves.

It is the second group who are far more likely to be active in many ways away from matches themselves, and that extends to internet messageboards. And, as the 'main' Albion messageboard, such people naturally gravitate towards NSC, join it and participate in discussions upon it. Additionally, of course, a whole range of complete mental cases are also drawn here.
 




NF9

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Infact Henry VIII Was advised by a poll on NSC in which members voted as to how each wife would be delt with!
 








Bozza

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I certainly wasn't meaning you fella.

More the much maligned 'inner circle' types.

I have no reason to think you did mean me.

Your second line implies that it's more the case that some people may believe that they themselves are influential, not that they believe NSC is.
 


Brighton Breezy

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Jul 5, 2003
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I have no reason to think you did mean me.

Your second line implies that it's more the case that some people may believe that they themselves are influential, not that they believe NSC is.

I suppose, although many of them do use NSC to raise their profile among fans or to further any agenda they may have.

I have never had a criticism of NSC itself though. I think we are lucky to have such a good platform to vent our football frustrations etc. Many other clubs in our league have terrible forums.

Plus, when I was at uni, I found NSC a brilliant way to pick up tickets for when I was back.
 






London Pompous

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Feb 16, 2008
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You seem to be unaware of the difference between playing devils advocate and being a complete knob.

Really?

How about I get hold of the Albion accounts for both seasons that you refer to.

If you are correct and McGhee had double the budget of Wilkins, we meet at an away game and I buy all your drinks that day, and if you are incorrect, the rounds are on you.
 












London Pompous

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Feb 16, 2008
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Eh, mind if I don't. You're borderline 'ignore' for NSC let alone real life.

We got on fine the last time we had a chat in real life!
 


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