[Football] How do I/we justify the price paid for Moises?

[ChickenBaltiPie]

I’M SORRY! Yes, I KNOW(!!) Another Moises thread…BUT the rest of the threads are out of control, I can’t keep up with them despite my best efforts and several late nights reading like many of us I’m sure, and I need help haha (I bet I’m not alone and so hope this isn’t an entirely selfish thread.)

I am getting BOMBARDED by jealous/angry texts from (non BHA) ‘friends’ and I’m doing my best but would appreciate ‘succinct’ help from the intelligent/articulate among you (I don’t count myself as any of the above) in rationalising it?!

Also looks like it might be set to go even higher if Chelsea bid again?!

• He’s (in our opinion) the best DMF in the league, and they’re rare/expensive/in demand right now.
•• We watch his every minute (not just 5mins on MOTD) and so KNOW his talent.

• The amount is subjective/market lead…
•• Rice/Enzo/Jude (I think he’s better but tbh wouldn’t presume to be able to speak to another teams players ability with any real expert knowledge if I didn’t watch them week in week out.)

• Better(or at least on the same level) as the others mentioned and YOUNGER, still improving and so as much about his potential as it is his current ability.

• We didn’t want/need to sell (like other clubs re other players) and so the price was set by the NEED of the potential buyers at this moment in time, and not necessarily what we ‘truly’ think he’s worth. (I think had he stayed longer we’d of sold for less, having realised more value, like Trossard/Mac Allister/Burn etc)
•• He was never for sale and so the offers were always going to have to be high!

• On an existing long contract (also in comparison to above mentioned players?)

Anything else? THANK YOU!

EDIT: Perhaps I should add that I don’t feel I ‘have’ to justify it, maybe I ‘want’ to…and in hindsight I would like rather to ‘educate/enlighten’ my ignorant friends to the pertinent facts that are clearly beyond them rather than ‘justify’ it!

 

[Mancgull]

Supply and demand, simple as that

 

[fruitnveg]

Why does it need justifying. He's under contract and in demand. Rules of supply and demand dictate price.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

I don’t see why you have to justify anything. The simple fact is that Moises was never officially for sale and Brighton set a very high price to deter offers, and to reflect the price paid for Enzo and Rice, neither of whom are as good as Caicedo. If someone’s crazy enough to pay £115m or even £100m, why on Earth would we be stupid enough to turn it down? We can make great investments in our squad and facilities with that money. Moises is a really good player but he's not £115m-good.

 

[Vin]

I don’t see why you have to justify anything. The simple fact is that Moises was never officially for sale and Brighton set a very high price to deter offers, and to reflect the price paid for Enzo and Rice, neither of whom are as good as Caicedo. If someone’s crazy enough to pay £115m or even £100m, why on Earth would we be stupid enough to turn it down? We can make great investments in our squad and facilities with that money. Moises is a really good player but he's not £115m-good.

He's not worth £115m probably more £130m currently.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

He's not worth £115m probably more £130m currently.

No.

 

[Bodian]

You/We can't. Simple as that. It's obscene amounts of money.

But welcome!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I don’t see why you have to justify anything. The simple fact is that Moises was never officially for sale and Brighton set a very high price to deter offers, and to reflect the price paid for Enzo and Rice, neither of whom are as good as Caicedo. If someone’s crazy enough to pay £115m or even £100m, why on Earth would we be stupid enough to turn it down? We can make great investments in our squad and facilities with that money. Moises is a really good player but he's not £115m-good.

Not at the moment but some of the high price will be based on his potential.

 

[Beanstalk]

He signed a long contract in March and the club have no need to sell, therefore any fee will need to be impossible to reject. With more than one club bidding the price organically has risen. He’s also exceptionally talented and only 21.

That’s the difficult to argue with version.

 

[Clive Walker]

i know this isn't what you are really asking but............we justify it to chelsea because that is what liverpool wanted to pay.

 

[SUIYHP]

Who tf is sending YOU jealous/angry texts? You aren’t Paul Barber or Tony Bloom (presumably) and you aren't making £100m+ from this sale.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I’M SORRY! Yes, I KNOW(!!) another Moises thread…BUT the rest of the threads are out of control, I can’t keep up with them despite my best efforts and several late nights reading like many of us I’m sure, and I need help haha (I bet I’m not alone and so hope this isn’t an entirely selfish thread.)

I am getting BOMBARDED by jealous/angry texts from (non BHA) ‘friends’ and I’m doing my best but would appreciate ‘succinct’ help from the intelligent/articulate among you (I don’t count myself as any of the above) in rationalising it?!

Also looks like it might be set to go even higher if Chelsea bid again?!

• He’s (in our opinion) the best DMF in the league, and they’re rare/expensive/in demand right now.
•• We watch his every minute (not just 5mins on MOTD) and so KNOW his talent.

• The amount is subjective/market lead…
•• Rice/Enzo/Jude (I think he’s better but tbo wouldn’t presume to be able to speak to another teams players ability with any real expert knowledge if I didn’t watch them week in week out.)

• Better(or at least on the same level) as the others mentioned and YOUNGER, still improving and so as much about his potential as it is his current ability.

• We didn’t want/need to sell (like other clubs re other players) and so the price was set by the NEED of the potential buyers at this moment in time, and not necessarily what we ‘truly’ think he’s worth. (I think had he stayed longer we’d of sold for less, having realised more value, like Trossard/Mac Allister/Burn etc)
•• He was never for sale and so the offers were always going to have to be high!

• On an existing long contract (also in comparison to above mentioned players?)

Anything else? THANK YOU!

Yes, no, maybe
I don't know
Can you repeat the question?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Block the so-called friends who aren't friends at all. Easy.

 

[A1X]

Has the highest potential ceiling of any player in a similar position in the PL right now IMHO

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Surely it should be Liverpool .... or possibly Chelsea .... justifying the price, not us ?

 

[southstandandy]

Supply and demand, simple as that

This. Simple.

 

[Shooting Star]

Freakish and Fernandez went for £100 mil each and he's better than those two combined?

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Tell them to email Barbs!

 

[sully]

He's worth more to Liverpool, as he already had a good understanding of Mac Allister's game.

In fact, Ali may have told them he can't play without him, that he was the dynamo of the partnership, etc.

Who really knows, but I do know that Liverpool now have a very strong change of challenging again this season with the best midfield in the Premier League.

 

[gmabel830]

Have a Liverpool fan on another board who said they thought it reeks of a desperation move. I disagreed with him, as it's not hard to see that the money is a sign of the times on major football. Caciedo will have massively unrealistic expectations heaped on him now, so I can see him being really good and Liverpool fans still being disappointed.