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How did UKIP do?



Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
11,790
Brighton
Not seen anything on here,
Read through and it sounds like Lib Dems did badly, but no mention of Farage, did he win, did they get any seats?
 




surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,163
Bevendean
Kept one seat (Clacton), came second in a few, South Thanet (Farage seat) awaiting result.
 


The Optimist

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Apr 6, 2008
2,778
Lewisham
Lots of votes but only one seat so far. They've received twice as many votes as the SNP (3m to 1.4m) qbut only have one seat compared to the 56 (?) the SNP have so far. I'm no fan of UKIP but it does seem strange that you can win so many votes and end up with so few seats.
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Lots of votes but only one seat so far. They've received twice as many votes as the SNP (3m to 1.4m) qbut only have one seat compared to the 56 (?) the SNP have so far. I'm no fan of UKIP but it does seem strange that you can win so many votes and end up with so few seats.

The SNP got 1.4m votes out of a possible 4m (roughly I can only find figures including 16 and 17 year olds).

UKIP got 3m out of 46m.

So there is your explanation for that. Though of course you knew that really.
 






nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,600
Gods country fortnightly
Can't stand UKIP but so unfair they only got 1 MP
 




Bladders

Twats everywhere
Jun 22, 2012
13,672
The Troubadour
Should be the country's 3rd largest party with the votes they got, but only one seat.

Something's not right is it.
 




StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
I'm quite disappointed by this.

I know UKIP and their Voters get a fair amount of flack on here, but getting the third highest votes in the UK, by quite a large margin, to only have 1 seat doesn't seem right.

Votes so far:

  • Conservative: 10.9m
  • Labour: 9.1m
  • UKIP: 3.7m
  • Lib Dems: 2.3m
  • SNP: 1.4m
  • Green: 1.1m

Hoping UKIP can claim Thanet South. Results imminent.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,983
Surrey
Why are people so upset about the voting system just because UKIP are suffering?

The Lib Dems have suffered in this way for DECADES. The UKIP candidate at Clacton made a big deal of it in his winning acceptance speech. Funny that it wasn't an issue for him when he winning on behalf of the Conservatives!
 


JCL666

absurdism
Sep 23, 2011
2,190
Why are people so upset about the voting system just because UKIP are suffering?

The Lib Dems have suffered in this way for DECADES. The UKIP candidate at Clacton made a big deal of it in his winning acceptance speech. Funny that it wasn't an issue for him when he winning on behalf of the Conservatives!

This.

People can't whinge about the voting system post election if the results don't go their way.

HOWEVER

I can't see the electoral system staying as it is. The rise of support for "alternative" parties means that almost 25% of the electorate are now looking for something different.

And as has been said many many times before. You get 37% of the vote and that is a mandate to govern? It's pretty crazy.
 




Spadge

New member
Sep 21, 2011
255
What a pointless argument!

Its all relative to the amount of people in the constituency

UKIP May of had 3 million votes but why should they get more MP's if 2.9 million of them votes were all based in say Cardiff?

You vote in a constituence for an MP to represent that area.

1 area 1 seat, why is that so hard for people to understand that?
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,278
Goldstone
I despise UKIP and all they represent - but 3.7 million voters getting 1 MP is not democracy.
Should be the country's 3rd largest party with the votes they got, but only one seat.

Something's not right is it.
I'm quite disappointed by this.

I know UKIP and their Voters get a fair amount of flack on here, but getting the third highest votes in the UK, by quite a large margin, to only have 1 seat doesn't seem right.

Votes so far:

  • Conservative: 10.9m
  • Labour: 9.1m
  • UKIP: 3.7m
  • Lib Dems: 2.3m
  • SNP: 1.4m
  • Green: 1.1m

Hoping UKIP can claim Thanet South. Results imminent.
We do need to accept that many of those voters were simply making a protest, and comment about our place in Europe. Many Labour and Tory voters that felt their vote wouldn't make a difference, will have voted UKIP to make a statement. If we had PR, they may have had a lot less votes.
 


StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
What a pointless argument!

Its all relative to the amount of people in the constituency

UKIP May of had 3 million votes but why should they get more MP's if 2.9 million of them votes were all based in say Cardiff?


You vote in a constituence for an MP to represent that area.

1 area 1 seat, why is that so hard for people to understand that?

That's all well and good, but in this election UKIP came out second in dozens of constituencies.

Let's 'pretend' that 33% of voters from 50 different constituencies voted UKIP making this party the 'runner-up'.
Is it fair that the millions of voters over the UK won't be represented?

3.8 million UKIP voters all over the UK represented by 1 (possibly 2) MP.
1.4 million SNP voters mostly from (or in) Scotland represented by 56 MP's.

:shootself
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,534
The arse end of Hangleton
People can't whinge about the voting system post election if the results don't go their way.

I moaned about the system BEFORE the election. As a voter I feel my opinion is not represented in parliament.
 


SAC

Well-known member
May 21, 2014
2,632
Blame the Lib Dems. They should have insisted on a vote on proper proportional representation before doing a deal with the Cons. Stupid feckers shot themselves in the foot there.
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
That's all well and good, but in this election UKIP came out second in dozens of constituencies.

Let's 'pretend' that 33% of voters from 50 different constituencies voted UKIP making this party the 'runner-up'.
Is it fair that the millions of voters over the UK won't be represented?

3.8 million UKIP voters all over the UK represented by 1 (possibly 2) MP.
1.4 million SNP voters mostly from (or in) Scotland represented by 56 MP's.

:shootself

SNP votes not mostly in Scotland, ONLY in Scotland, obviously. The SNP getting that many seats is not the big problem here. They nailed it in Scotland and should have the majority of seats in Scotland. The Scottish people have overwhelmingly voted for socialist parties/policies 74.3% of Scottish votes have gone to Labour or SNP, their opinions will be represented in Westminster.

The 12.6% who voted for UKIP are not being represented. That is the problem here. Ignore the SNP and Scotland in this unjust system, it is England and the opinions of it's voters that are being misrepresented.
 


SAC

Well-known member
May 21, 2014
2,632
Back to Ukip. The answer looks to be badly. Farage originally predicted up to 40 seats which he revised to a dozen and then a hand-full but looks to be on course to get 1 or 2. Considering Ukip went into the election with two this can only be considered as being poor.

Will Farage resign, as promised, if he doesn't win his seat?
 




Spadge

New member
Sep 21, 2011
255
SNP will be representing the areas they were voted in (basically Scotland only).

They WON their seats, UKIP won 1 seat and that's it.

Why should the basis that UKIP came a close 3rd but with more individual votes than SNP give them the right to more seats to represent them, which areas of the country would you expect these UKIP MP's to represent?

Would you expect because UKIP had more votes they could then slid an MP in to represent Bradford?

Doesn't work pal!
 


StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
The 12.6% who voted for UKIP are not being represented. That is the problem here. Ignore the SNP and Scotland in this unjust system, it is England and the opinions of it's voters that are being misrepresented.

This is the issue.
12.6% of all voters being represented by just 1 person.
 


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