How Can People Still Vote Labour?

[coventrygull]

Are you seriously trying to claim that there was no Soviet policy of destabilisation of western society leading to it's downfall during the cold war ? You probably believed the iron curtain was there to keep us out as well ?? you really havent got a clue have you ?

You have not seen John Pilgers war on Democracy

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Are you seriously trying to claim that there was no Soviet policy of destabilisation of western society leading to it's downfall during the cold war ? You probably believed the iron curtain was there to keep us out as well ?? you really havent got a clue have you ?

See my previous thread.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Are you seriously trying to claim that there was no Soviet policy of destabilisation of western society leading to it's downfall during the cold war ? You probably believed the iron curtain was there to keep us out as well ?? you really havent got a clue have you ?

The iron curtain was as much about keeping their own people in, and in check, as anything else. As I say, they had grand designs, but it was naive, fanciful and at times fantasy. Have you been to any of the museums in eastern europe? Russia? Cuba? Some of the stuff is pure comedy and achieved little beyond their own shores.

Sure, they could have blown us up and this was a real threat but below this I do not think there was a genuine threat they could have actually achieved destabilising us.

 

[Blue Square Thing]

Your use of the word 'kinda' makes you sound kinda of a knob.

Not as much as you do with that high class response...

 

[simmo]

If you'd read what I said, you will see that I was saying that I thought the Conservatives would win and do better than the current polls suggest.

My comment on blown it wasn't to do with winning an election. That's only half of it. It's what you do once you win that is key and the world markets are not convinced by the Tory economic policies or in the personnel who are leading them.

The markets are not convinced by the Labour economic policies to limit our debt either. For all the electoral promises that Labour makes you would not even think we are in the dire economic situation that the Prudent Iron Chancellor and then Prime Minister Brown has got us in to.

 

[Blue Square Thing]

16% for how long ? you know full well how long dont you , its just typical of the way that you and all the other new labour sheep have no real argument , just attempts at lies and distortion, and you're talking absolute bollocks about the city(as usual) i work there, and support for labour and darling is rarer than rocking horse shit.

What about the longer term interest rates. Forget that mad day when they went from 10 to 15 in an afternoon (iirc - it was a long time ago). What was the longer term trend.

 

[simmo]

The markets are not convinced by the Labour economic policies to limit our debt either. For all the electoral promises that Labour makes you would not even think we are in the dire economic situation that the Prudent Iron Chancellor and then Prime Minister Brown has got us in to.

BBC News - Economists urge swift action to reduce budget deficit

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The iron curtain was as much about keeping their own people in, and in check, as anything else. As I say, they had grand designs, but it was naive, fanciful and at times fantasy. Have you been to any of the museums in eastern europe? Russia? Cuba? Some of the stuff is pure comedy and achieved little beyond their own shores.

Sure, they could have blown us up and this was a real threat but below this I do not think there was a genuine threat they could have actually achieved destabilising us.

Mind you, the west would have us believe different. The 'Reds under your bed' propaganda/paranoia a case in point.

But, a successful destabilisation of the west (as opposed to a simple flattening with a nuke) would have required more than a few friends in the Labour party and a listening devise in a watering can.

 

[coventrygull]

Mind you, the west would have us believe different. The 'Reds under your bed' propaganda/paranoia a case in point.

But, a successful destabilisation of the west (as opposed to a simple flattening with a nuke) would have required more than a few friends in the Labour party and a listening devise in a watering can.

We don't need know soviets to destabilise the UK. The Labour party have done a good job of that by themselves. How many years before the civil war

 

[Brixtaan]

My blind rage at Gordon (which lasted all of 2009) is receding even though i'm f***ed for work still.

The problem i'm having is that drastic austerity is clearly the only way forward yet without mass consumerism and confidence we are going nowhere.

 

[coventrygull]

My blind rage at Gordon (which lasted all of 2009) is receding even though i'm f***ed for work still.

The problem i'm having is that drastic austerity is clearly the only way forward yet without mass consumerism and confidence we are going nowhere.

Yes drastic austerity for the poor.

 

[glasfryn]

they are all a bunch of jackasses ..but I will vote Labour ( in the absence of a decent Green candidate where I live) simply because any change now will cost the country and its people too much and by the time the following election comes I will either be dead or past caring.