loco61
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so when can i buy/pre order my son a shirt
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Not Andy Naylor
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I wonder whether Nike have had the same difficulty supplying England, Chelsea, Tottenham or Man City shirts ...
Weststander
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For obvious reasons, the demand for their shirts would be far more predictable, than for complete PL newcomers with a recent history of relatively modest sales. The FA and those clubs mentioned can therefore forecast and order with great certainty. As PB made plain, the costs of any over ordering would have been suffered by the club.
Every unsold shirt at the end of the season, would have wiped out the club's profit on 6 shirts sold at full price, mitigated to an extent by any recover in the end/post season sale.
Mellor 3 Ward 4
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What a strange comment (not Andy Naylor) see Weststander's note.
Completely different circumstances. You cannot compare Chelsea/England kit sales to ours.
Completely different circumstances. You cannot compare Chelsea/England kit sales to ours.
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Not Andy Naylor
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Well, I'm sure I apologise for asking. I was trying to establish whether it was a general blockage in the Nike supply lines or simply with our shirts.
I'll try a different question if my first one was so strange. Have Nike run out of black socks for the away kit as well? Even the first team don't seem to have any now.
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Dirk Lehmann's Python
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So Barber has written another essay of spin which can be summarised in 5 words.
The club underestimated the demand.
Simple as that really. Who'd have thought it? The bloke really is a tit sometimes when a bit of criticism comes their way. Yes - we can all see that sales have exceeded expectations, but to be tied into a deal and a situation where we have had no kits on sale for 3 of the first 4 months of our first Premier League campaign is an absolutely shambolic situation, with only seemingly a small batch to arrive before Christmas.
It may not be through lack of trying or individual blame, but the holistic situation is an disgrace, however many sentences he puts together about record sales and exceptional drmand.
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The club underestimated the demand.
Simple as that really. Who'd have thought it? The bloke really is a tit sometimes when a bit of criticism comes their way. Yes - we can all see that sales have exceeded expectations, but to be tied into a deal and a situation where we have had no kits on sale for 3 of the first 4 months of our first Premier League campaign is an absolutely shambolic situation, with only seemingly a small batch to arrive before Christmas.
It may not be through lack of trying or individual blame, but the holistic situation is an disgrace, however many sentences he puts together about record sales and exceptional drmand.
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Hyperion
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A complete mess supply wise. On one hand you have the club telling people not to buy fake kits online and on the other hand there are no real kits in stock. I would be raging if I was Mr Barber. Ditch Nike on the basis they have as a kit supplier, not actually supplied any(home kits)....for months.
TWOCHOICEStom
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I think Barber has done a brilliant job, but I'm inclined to agree. They underestimated demand. Simple as that.
We seem to harp on about how blessed we are to have Nike as a kit supplier and how, without them, we'd never sell as many kits to the thousands of kids who won't wear anything but Nike (even though their parents buy the bloody thing so it makes NO DIFFERENCE). We're so LUCKY we have a (kind of) unique FOURTY FIVE POUND shirt which didn't come from pro direct soccer. And how, because of these BLESSINGS we've got to suffer the consequences and that nobody is to blame, we're just victims of our own success.
Well I would say that whoever is in charge of the tat in the club shop and whoever estimates how much shit we should order and whoever decided that the bloody arms on the away shirt were a good idea needs to perhaps do a bit of a better job.
Every element of the club is top notch, but the whole shopping experience is borderline worse than when we were in League 1.
Hyperion
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I agree with most of that but the club saying they underestimated the demand doesn’t really answer the question as to why it has been several months and we stick haven’t got a pot to piss in stock wise. That’s extremely poor
Dirk Lehmann's Python
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Stop it. You're supposed to ignore the inevitable spikes owing to growing fanbase, the success of last year and the Premier League boom, and instead focus on record "footfall", sales, turnovers etc.
Never mind the empty Nike shelves and the colossal amount of overpriced horseshit on offer.
IT'S RECORD-BREAKING STUFF
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Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Very much this.
There are clubs in the PL who are of a similar size to ourselves, clubs who have been promoted to the PL who are of a similar size to ourselves. Although its our first time at this level in a long time, we haven't re-invented the wheel here. We get crowds of circa 30k, I can't imagine we are so UNIQUE as to be completely clueless as to the demand for shirts after having been promoted. But apparently, we are.
Why not just fess up and say "apologies, we got our numbers completely wrong". Won't help anyone get their shirts any quicker now, but its preferable to all this fobbing off with the apparently incalculable, unprecedented, off-the-scale, WORLD RECORD demand for BHA shirts that has caught them completely unawares.
Dirk Lehmann's Python
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I can't remember Barber apologising for anything other than Seagulls Player being shit (supplier to blame, of course)Very much this.
There are clubs in the PL who are of a similar size to ourselves, clubs who have been promoted to the PL who are of a similar size to ourselves. Although its our first time at this level in a long time, we haven't re-invented the wheel here. We get crowds of circa 30k, I can't imagine we are so UNIQUE as to be completely clueless as to the demand for shirts after having been promoted. But apparently, we are.
Why not just fess up and say "apologies, we got our numbers completely wrong". Won't help anyone get their shirts any quicker now, but its preferable to all this fobbing off with the apparently incalculable, unprecedented, off-the-scale, world-record demand for BHA shirts that has caught them seemingly completely unawares.
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I wonder if this colossal cock up will be reflected in a CEO's bonus this year...?
middletoenail
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Is it me, or is there a new precedent of shirts being valid for only one season?
This is clearly a huge contributory factor of the club being scared of over supply, but Barber doesn't mention this.
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This is clearly a huge contributory factor of the club being scared of over supply, but Barber doesn't mention this.
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Kalimantan Gull
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All right everyone, stop it now, they underestimated demand, give them a break. They obviously got someone to do an analysis of expected sales, and they didn't get it right, its not an exact science. There doesn't seem to be much more they can do other than what they have done already.
This.
Extend the use of the current shirt for an additional season (single season shirts are wholly unacceptable anyway, IMO), so that the people still waiting don't walk away thinking "What's the point in buying a shirt now, that's going to be replaced after about ten (home) matches", and so that they can confidently re-stock in decent volume, which next summer's demand in mind.