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The Large One

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Hmm I'm not sure. Shrewsbury were shit so that one was pretty comfortable, but in the three games since I don't think he looks quite as fit and mobile as he should be. I'm not knocking him for that - he's just had three YEARS out for christ sake!! It's going to take time to be back at his best, and he'll get the chance to do that. All I'm saying is I don't think it's right to be talking about him as the ultimate defender after four games back. Be patient, watch his fitness grow, and in a couple of months we'll have him back as brilliant as he used to be.

Shrewsbury were shit, but Hinsh was part of the reason why.

But yeah, no-one's going OTT on him just yet. I just hope he manages to keep his place even when El Burro Gordo is fit again.
 


B.W.

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IF he plays well for the rest of the season AND avoids injury, THEN that will justify the board's / management's overly-patient (IMHO) insistence on continuing to pay his wages for month after month... time will tell...
 


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İbrahim Tatlıses;2737906 said:
Sorry, I meant best defender. When he was at his best I would indeed rate him higher than McShane when he was here It's sad that he probably won't reach his former potential, but as long as our donkey physio's don't ruin yet another career we should have a very very quality player at this level once again.

What have our physios done to wreck his career?
 






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İbrahim Tatlıses;2737924 said:
Our physio's haven't got a very good track record have they. Only an amount of time before he goes down the same road as roberts piercey etc and is forced to retire because of our backroom incompetance. Already had both his legs crocked on different occasions.

As I understand it, the ongoing problem was with the surgeon nausing up the operation. As for him crocking another part of his body, how were these injuries down to the physios?
 


Arrid

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İbrahim Tatlıses;2737906 said:
I would indeed rate him higher than McShane when he was here

I think you must have enjoyed the festive spirit too much. Better than McShane, never was, never will be!
 


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quality news, has got the best out of Elphick and can only see him getting better with more games and getting more fitness. Also means Hawkins will hopefully get less games which can only be a good thing
 




S'hampton Seagull

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quality news, has got the best out of Elphick and can only see him getting better with more games and getting more fitness. Also means Hawkins will hopefully get less games which can only be a good thing

Exactly! With El-Abd and Virgo around, hopefully he will hardly play at all
 


dougdeep

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İbrahim Tatlıses;2737924 said:
Only an amount of time before he goes down the same road as roberts piercey etc and is forced to retire because of our backroom incompetance.

That sounds like libel to me.
 


Carrot Cruncher

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İbrahim Tatlıses;2737924 said:
Our physio's haven't got a very good track record have they. Only an amount of time before he goes down the same road as piercey and is forced to retire because of our backroom incompetance.

John Piercey had (and probably still has) Ulcerative Colitis, a severe inflamation of the colon. It is a systemic illness and can affect many parts of the body.

One of the main symtoms as a result of this disease is severe athritis. This wouldn't really be conducive to being a professional footballer.

None of this is down to any of our medical staff.
 




Mike Small

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For God sake. To me in many ways Hinshelwood represents so much of what is wrong with the Albion. A family run club, run on sentiment and given our catchment not the best youth policy (although that was more of a dig at senior Hinshelwood). As for a player he is ok at best:

1) He's too small to win any headers for a centre back and jumps all over the forward given away free kicks
2) Not particulartly good on the ball and i'm not even talking about the Colchester debacle
3) Not slow but certainly not fast i.e. any fast forward would outpace him
4) Not strong
5) In fact i doubt he could clear the half way line from a dead ball

I accept he is good at covering and what he has at the moment is that he better than bloody Hawkins. Please don't start talking about him being the man to lead us into Falmer. He's had a steady couple of games againsgt poor opposition but we always get carried away. He wouldnt get a look in at any top League 1 side and when he does leave us it will be to Burgess Hill or some nonsense like that
 




BensGrandad

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I think that he was in the Joel Lynch mould everybody thought that he was a lot better than he actually was but fair play to him he has battled back and has played well in the games that he has played recently. So much so that he has helped Elphick to look better over the last few games than he has all season.
 




Arrid

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İbrahim Tatlıses;2738441 said:
Mike Small - obviously didn't seem him all those seasons ago before his injuries then? Was a class above.

I did and no he wasn't!
 


Finchley Seagull

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I did and no he wasn't!

You obviously have a short memory then because during the survival season he was our best player (in my opinion obviously) until his injury.

I also completely disagree with Mike Small about all that is wrong about the club. We stand by players (possibly for too long although Hinsh's comeback is proving that wrong) and that is far better than dumping players the minute they are badly injured.
 


Finchley Seagull

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For God sake. To me in many ways Hinshelwood represents so much of what is wrong with the Albion. A family run club, run on sentiment and given our catchment not the best youth policy (although that was more of a dig at senior Hinshelwood). As for a player he is ok at best:

1) He's too small to win any headers for a centre back and jumps all over the forward given away free kicks
2) Not particulartly good on the ball and i'm not even talking about the Colchester debacle
3) Not slow but certainly not fast i.e. any fast forward would outpace him
4) Not strong
5) In fact i doubt he could clear the half way line from a dead ball

I accept he is good at covering and what he has at the moment is that he better than bloody Hawkins. Please don't start talking about him being the man to lead us into Falmer. He's had a steady couple of games againsgt poor opposition but we always get carried away. He wouldnt get a look in at any top League 1 side and when he does leave us it will be to Burgess Hill or some nonsense like that

How you can criticise our youth policy after the number of players that have come through and the transfer money it has made us is beyond me. We are Brighton so we are bound to lose one or two youngsters to London clubs but we have done exceptionally well since being at Withdean.

Your comments about Hinshelwood suggest you did not watch the Albion during the season we survived in the Championship as he was fantastic then. Even watching him now would show your comments up for the ignorant crap they are.
 


Uncle Buck

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Jul 7, 2003
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Prior to the first injury, Hinsh was in the England Under 21 squad, so that suggests that he did have something to offer.

I guess the big issue now is how much these 3 or 4 operations have affected his pace and whether the knee is strong enough.

If he does not break down, he will have something to offer, granted probably slower than before.

I suspect if he had not got injured against Reading in 2005, he would probably now be playing at a higher level than the Albion are.
 






Mike Small

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Dec 26, 2008
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How you can criticise our youth policy after the number of players that have come through and the transfer money it has made us is beyond me. We are Brighton so we are bound to lose one or two youngsters to London clubs but we have done exceptionally well since being at Withdean.

Your comments about Hinshelwood suggest you did not watch the Albion during the season we survived in the Championship as he was fantastic then. Even watching him now would show your comments up for the ignorant crap they are.

I did watch the season we survived in the Championship and yes he had a steady season then although we played with 3 centre backs which suits his game far more than being part of a centre back pairing of 2. I accept my points may bit a bit too far but essentially he is vastly overated by the club and ummm...you.

As for our youth policy this has generated much needed revenue but the players were never that good in the first place:

Michael Standing: played a handful of games at Walsall
Dan Harding: is now a Southend substitute on loan
Adam Viro: back here
Gatting, Adam Kebab, Cox, Robinson, Hinshelwood, G Elphick, Fraser, Loft, Chamberlain will NEVER play at a level higher than League 1 at best and will end up at a Sussex county league team proabably one that Dean White is managing when he is finally given the boot.

Our success in past years was not due to some fabulous youth policy but better professionals we signed (Cullip, Zamora, Carpenter and now Forster etc etc) not the local youth and disinterested loanees we now play. My point is that Hinshelwood is not particualrly good but here we go again giving him a contract
 


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