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[Misc] Help please - Spinal Stenosis



Zeberdi

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Apologies in advance for the long post.

Just to be clear, this isn’t a post for self pity or sympathy but a genuine request for information.

Some (many?) of you know by now I have had severe widespread pain and mobility issues that has got progressively worse in the past few years along with progressively worsening balance issues, brain fog and fatigue. All of which has also taken a toll on my mental wellbeing and autistic symptoms but I have managed to avoid depression fortunately)

After travelling to Brighton last week, my symptoms took a turn for the worse and are still very acute. I have had severe head and neck pains, shooting pains and pins and needles with sciatica in both legs as well as muscle weakness and nausea ( from the pain) at a level I have not experienced before. I have been diagnosed at various times over the years with several autoimmune conditions, a neurological condition and more recently Long Covid and arthritis but this is the worse I have ever felt.

Last month I had MRI brain, cervical and lumbar scans because my mobility has become so bad. It showed among other things, the expected T2 white flares associated with my neurological disorder and brain atrophy ( expected).

However, my MRI of the neck showed advanced and “severe cervical foraminal stenosis“ ( progressive narrowing of the spinal canal that compresses the spinal cord). Untreated it can lead to paralysis and even death.

I am waiting to hear back from the Neurologist hopefully about a referral to an Orthopaedic Surgeon but does anyone have “severe forminal stenosis” to the point it has advanced to neurological symptoms and if so, have they had steroid injections or surgery to take the pressure off the spinal cord?

I have had physio and various prescription painkillers thrown at me over the years that haven’t worked because in the absence of a proper diagnosis, it was the wrong treatment. Instead, the degeneration has progressed to an advanced stage in the absence of a diagnosis and I don’t know what if anything can still be done.

I am wondering if there may be one or two NSCers who have this disease and can share some experiences of treatment etc.

Thanks. 🙂
 
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PascalGroß Tips

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Firstly, I'm sorry you're going through all this ... and have been for far too long.

Has anyone mentioned - or have you heard of - craniosacral therapy? My wife was recently diagnosed with fibromyalgia (after 5 years or so of tests and scans to effectively rule all sorts of other things out). After doing lots of research (as there is no cure or single treatment for fibromyalgia) she came across this therapy as a possible way of managing the pain that she has. She found a qualified therapist in Hove (I appreciate you're not in Sussex these days) and has had three sessions so far. After each session, she has experienced significant benefit. Believe me, if it wasn't helping, she wouldn't be going back.

Now I appreciate that you're going through is even more complex - but on having a quick look just now, craniosacral therapy is mentioned as a complementary treatment for severe cervical foraminal stenosis (see below). It might be worth having a read up on it and having a conversation with your medical people.

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It's a really gentle therapy and when I first read about it, I was sceptical. But as I say, after each session my wife has had decent results in terms of helping with pain etc. Brain fog and fatigue are also things that my wife experiences with her fibromyalgia.

Here's some info on the therapy - https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/17677-craniosacral-therapy

All the best with trying to find something that helps.
 


Zeberdi

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I can't help with sharing any useful insights @Zeberdi, but I can wish you all the best and hope there's an improvement in your situation.
Thank you - much appreciated. 😍

Has anyone mentioned - or have you heard of - craniosacral therapy? …
All the best with trying to find something that helps.
Thanks @PascalGroß Tips for taking the trouble to write such a detailed response. I had not heard of this and will certainly bring it up with the Neurologist. Unfortunately I also have cervical instability (which is why the neurological symptoms and pain is exacerbated by vehicular motion, lifting weight and exercise so it may not be suitable. It is looking at the moment that the only effective treatment for stage 3 (severe) forminal stenosis is neck/spinal surgery to widen the spinal tunnel/canal to decompress the spinal chord which I really don’t fancy, hence wondering if anyone has had that option.
 


PascalGroß Tips

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Thank you - much appreciated. 😍


Thanks @PascalGroß Tips for taking the trouble to write such a detailed response. I had not heard of this and will certainly bring it up with the Neurologist. Unfortunately I also have cervical instability (which is why the neurological symptoms and pain is exacerbated by vehicular motion, lifting weight and exercise so it may not be suitable. It is looking at the moment that the only effective treatment for stage 3 (severe) forminal stenosis is neck/spinal surgery to widen the spinal tunnel/canal to decompress the spinal chord which I really don’t fancy, hence wondering if anyone has had that option.
Yes, you have to tread very carefully with these things and always seek advice from those involved. I truly hope you can find some answers to improve things. I'm in awe that you manage to get to games given what you are dealing with.
 




One Teddy Maybank

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I have cervical stenosis/myelopathy.

It sounds that you have other factors as well so I would tread carefully.

It can be left untreated and not degenerate, but the advice I was given was as soon as doing up/undoing buttons becomes challenging, that’s when you need treatment and relatively quickly.

Before considering treatment, my own advice would be that surgeons like to operate, so get two opinions. (If that is indeed an option for you).

I have decided to stay on f/up as long as possible with an annual MRI (literally had mine tonight)…….Like you I don’t fancy the surgery…..

Obviously wish you the absolute best of luck….
 


thedonkeycentrehalf

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@Zeberdi I can’t offer any guidance but wishing you all the best in finding a way of managing this
 


Zeberdi

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I have cervical stenosis/myelopathy.

It sounds that you have other factors as well so I would tread carefully.

It can be left untreated and not degenerate, but the advice I was given was as soon as doing up/undoing buttons becomes challenging, that’s when you need treatment and relatively quickly.

Before considering treatment, my own advice would be that surgeons like to operate, so get two opinions. (If that is indeed an option for you).

I have decided to stay on f/up as long as possible with an annual MRI (literally had mine tonight)…….Like you I don’t fancy the surgery…..

Obviously wish you the absolute best of luck….
Thanks Teddy. Good advice.

It’s early in the diagnostic process for me but it has progressed to quite severe symptoms in a fairly short period of time (18-24 months) hence the scans and nerve conduction tests although I have had neck problems since severe whiplash from a RTA 20 years ago. Because of the cervical instability, the nerve compression can be intermittant - at worst, I can’t do up a jacket/buttons or stand up and drop things and it affects swallowing and my vision. At best, just constant pain. In the meantime until I see an orthopaedic consultant and the neurologist again, I have been advised to wear a neck collar. Tbh I am relieved I have a diagnosis but the NHS is so slow to process!

Sorry to hear you have cervical myelopathy too - hopefully it won’t progress any further for you, it doesn’t always apparently. Surgery really is a last resort for anything.
 






Zeberdi

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