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Harty SOCKS it to the NSC LICKERS (& Hyypia) in the Herald this week



Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
Harty says it as it is, he still HAS his finger on the PULSE

UNFORTUNATELY, I’m not sure that the 1-0 win against Wigan Athletic at the Amex on Tuesday night will ultimately stop the inevitable departure of current Albion boss Sami Hyypia.

With new management at Bolton and Birmingham also recording victories on Tuesday night, the wrong set of results on Saturday could yet see the Albion entering the international break in the Championship relegation zone.

Hyypia’s football pedigree cannot be questioned, with more than 300 appearances for Liverpool over a decade and honours including two FA Cups, two League Cups, a UEFA Cup and a Champions League winners medal. But, as both Bobby Moore and Bobby Charlton, and many others before and after them found out, this doesn’t always equate to being a good manager.

Many fans still question whether Hyypia will be able to consistently cut it in the Championship over the course of a whole season.

Looking at his Wikipedia page, it’s clear, away from football, he’s a loving family man and an all-round good egg with his charity work. So, the kindest thing that can probably be said, not for the first time in the history of past Albion managers, is he in the wrong place at the wrong time?



Even now, supporters question if he was the club’s first choice?

For all the spin-doctoring back in the summer about quality applicants, have the Albion, on the face of it, ended up with someone who, in the long run, won’t cut it at Championship level?

It’s not as if the alarm bells didn’t start ringing with some supporters early on. And it’s clear that it’s polarised opinion on the legendary Albion internet forum, NorthStandChat.

Fans who did express initial concerns were dismissed by another faction of the support in a graphic and uncomplimentary term – a barb which has come back to haunt its original authors in recent weeks.

In fact, the whole saga has almost appeared to split the support on NSC, which, is something, as both an Albion fan and someone who enjoys reading NSC, that is almost as worrying as the Albion’s form.

I’m not for one minute suggesting that Paul Barber, or anyone else at the club is controlling or censoring the forum, but as emotions run high certain threads have been deemed controversial /libellous by moderators and have been removed.

I’ve never made a secret of the fact that I consider the platform to air my views in this newspaper a privilege and perhaps did the wheels actually start to come off with the departure of Gus Poyet – and was qualification for the play-offs last season more about luck than ability?

Looking at his track record, it’s clear to see that, given the right circumstances, Paul Barber is very good at his job.

However, as we all know in life, not everything goes to plan, and clearly that’s what is happening at the Albion.

It takes a big man to admit he’s wrong, I’ve had to do it in the past, both on radio and in this column – and will do again if neccessary – so I hope that Paul Barber is a big enough character to realise that’s he’s totally misread the situation and still has time to turn things around, both on and off the field.

However, in his defence, and indeed to his credit, even in these difficult times, he’s still prepared to enter into dialogue with some of his fiercest critics.

Losing money with 25,000 attendances in the Championship is worrying, losing money with 15,000 watching in League One is far more frightening.
 






Grombleton

Surrounded by <div>s
Dec 31, 2011
7,356
It just reads as one (not very) thinly veiled dig at PB.
 


LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
48,349
SHOREHAM BY SEA
Harty says it as it is, he still HAS his finger on the PULSE

UNFORTUNATELY, I’m not sure that the 1-0 win against Wigan Athletic at the Amex on Tuesday night will ultimately stop the inevitable departure of current Albion boss Sami Hyypia.

With new management at Bolton and Birmingham also recording victories on Tuesday night, the wrong set of results on Saturday could yet see the Albion entering the international break in the Championship relegation zone.

Hyypia’s football pedigree cannot be questioned, with more than 300 appearances for Liverpool over a decade and honours including two FA Cups, two League Cups, a UEFA Cup and a Champions League winners medal. But, as both Bobby Moore and Bobby Charlton, and many others before and after them found out, this doesn’t always equate to being a good manager.

Many fans still question whether Hyypia will be able to consistently cut it in the Championship over the course of a whole season.

Looking at his Wikipedia page, it’s clear, away from football, he’s a loving family man and an all-round good egg with his charity work. So, the kindest thing that can probably be said, not for the first time in the history of past Albion managers, is he in the wrong place at the wrong time?



Even now, supporters question if he was the club’s first choice?

For all the spin-doctoring back in the summer about quality applicants, have the Albion, on the face of it, ended up with someone who, in the long run, won’t cut it at Championship level?

It’s not as if the alarm bells didn’t start ringing with some supporters early on. And it’s clear that it’s polarised opinion on the legendary Albion internet forum, NorthStandChat.

Fans who did express initial concerns were dismissed by another faction of the support in a graphic and uncomplimentary term – a barb which has come back to haunt its original authors in recent weeks.

In fact, the whole saga has almost appeared to split the support on NSC, which, is something, as both an Albion fan and someone who enjoys reading NSC, that is almost as worrying as the Albion’s form.

I’m not for one minute suggesting that Paul Barber, or anyone else at the club is controlling or censoring the forum, but as emotions run high certain threads have been deemed controversial /libellous by moderators and have been removed.

I’ve never made a secret of the fact that I consider the platform to air my views in this newspaper a privilege and perhaps did the wheels actually start to come off with the departure of Gus Poyet – and was qualification for the play-offs last season more about luck than ability?

Looking at his track record, it’s clear to see that, given the right circumstances, Paul Barber is very good at his job.

However, as we all know in life, not everything goes to plan, and clearly that’s what is happening at the Albion.

It takes a big man to admit he’s wrong, I’ve had to do it in the past, both on radio and in this column – and will do again if neccessary – so I hope that Paul Barber is a big enough character to realise that’s he’s totally misread the situation and still has time to turn things around, both on and off the field.

However, in his defence, and indeed to his credit, even in these difficult times, he’s still prepared to enter into dialogue with some of his fiercest critics.

Losing money with 25,000 attendances in the Championship is worrying, losing money with 15,000 watching in League One is far more frightening.

Ooooeeeer...he certainly has his finger somewhere
 


Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
57,195
Back in Sussex
What absolute horseshit this is:

I’m not for one minute suggesting that Paul Barber, or anyone else at the club is controlling or censoring the forum, but as emotions run high certain threads have been deemed controversial /libellous by moderators and have been removed.
 






skipper734

Registered ruffian
Aug 9, 2008
9,189
Curdridge
I bet he didn't get invited to the Academy opening either.
 


perseus

Broad Blue & White stripe
Jul 5, 2003
23,460
Sūþseaxna
Altogether a negative and crappy article. Has somebody died?
 




LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
48,349
SHOREHAM BY SEA
What absolute horseshit this is:

I’m not for one minute suggesting that Paul Barber, or anyone else at the club is controlling or censoring the forum, but as emotions run high certain threads have been deemed controversial /libellous by moderators and have been removed.

but apparently he does enjoy reading the forum ...looooooool
 




somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
I certainly relate to one of his points for consideration,.. ..'Losing money on crowds of 25k'..... I concluded a while back that generating a 14 million deficit on our turnover, can only be as a result of gross mismanagement and a feeble operating model.
 






Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Always nice to read something that begins with a hypothetical negative worst case scenario, and then keeps digging.

Its so uplifting.
 


Mackenzie

Old Brightonian
Nov 7, 2003
33,985
East Wales
The Herald must love Harty........he is single handedly increasing their circulation 10 fold. I'm looking forward to next weeks instalment already. Will we finally find out what happened to the FA cup money? Stay tuned.
 
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Vintage Harty - having him back on the BBC would be great, he's better designed for the FFP era than the Dick Knight era
 


GreersElbow

New member
Jan 5, 2012
4,870
A Northern Outpost
What absolute horseshit this is:

I’m not for one minute suggesting that Paul Barber, or anyone else at the club is controlling or censoring the forum, but as emotions run high certain threads have been deemed controversial /libellous by moderators and have been removed.

Almost as bad as his last week column, it's fragmented and lacks any real main point. It begins with Hyypia and ends with something about Barber turning it around not clarifying what on earth he's on about.
 


hart's shirt

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
11,021
Kitbag in Dubai
It could be argued that the word 'legend' or 'legendary' is overused in footballing parlance.

However, as we're all by definition legends on the "legendary Albion internet forum", perhaps we can overlook this one.
 




dingodan

New member
Feb 16, 2011
10,080
"It takes a big man to admit he’s wrong, I’ve had to do it in the past..."

:moo:
 




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