Harding

[the wanderbus]

I hope Harding plays, has a blinder, Leeds go up, we get our cash & they come straight back down again.

 

[sir danny cullip]

I hope Harding plays, has a blinder, Leeds go up, we get our cash & they come straight back down again.

You missed out the part where he gets picked for an england friendly and comes on for the last 5 minutes....

 

[Starry]

That's silly, you are a female.

Ha!

 

[Les Biehn]

I rate Harding. Needs to toughen up a bit but technically I always thought he was a very good player.

 

[Da Man Clay]

I do wonder if the people knocking Harding will continue to claim he's crap even if he's playing regularly in the Premiership. Personally, I really rated him - he certainly make mistakes, but why he wasn't given the same slack extended to any other youth-team product, I know not. He would have been absolutely slated if he'd made the same cock-up Virgo did, for instance, on the last day of last season. We've unquestionably missed him vastly this year.

The difference being that Virgo didn't make anywhere near the sort of mistakes he did. Admitted that one on the last day was shocking but he made up for it something Harding very rarley did.

 

[Silent Bob]

You missed out the part where he gets picked for an england friendly and comes on for the last 5 minutes....

And moves to Chelsea for £30m (20% of which comes to us, the rest Leeds will pour into the hotel they're building).

 

[graz126]

i thought he always looked fairly composed on the ball. which is a good sign in a team that is struggling. but i can remember a few times like away at chesterfield where he always seemed out of position. i never rated him too highly. but when i watch the u21 games he was involved in he looked a differant player again. he was quality in them games. maybe he plays much better when he has better players around him.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I thought he looked like a panicked sheep practically every time he played for us

 

[O Lads]

I do wonder if the people knocking Harding will continue to claim he's crap even if he's playing regularly in the Premiership. Personally, I really rated him - he certainly make mistakes, but why he wasn't given the same slack extended to any other youth-team product, I know not. He would have been absolutely slated if he'd made the same cock-up Virgo did, for instance, on the last day of last season. We've unquestionably missed him vastly this year.

Agree with most of that post but if they go up I doubt he'll be playing regularly in the premiership.

 

[the wanderbus]

Ialways thought he looked better going forward,unfortunately for him I dont see that happening toomuch at leeds if they are promoted

 

[dougdeep]

He did the right thing by moving that's for sure. It would have been nice if he had given 100% while he was here though.

 

[London Irish]

What I always found bizarre is the double standards meted out on here to both Harding and Hinshelwood, both these fine young players made plenty of mistakes (much as El Abd has this season too). Yet it was only Harding that gets fried by NSC for them. Very odd.

People like to dwell on the shaky games he had, I prefer to remember how he was one our of best and most consistent players in that five-match unbeaten run that kept us up right at the end of 2004-5. He knew he was going at that stage but still played his best for us.

 

[sir danny cullip]

What I always found bizarre is the double standards meted out on here to both Harding and Hinshelwood, both these fine young players made plenty of mistakes (much as El Abd has this season too). Yet it was only Harding that gets fried by NSC for them. Very odd.

Can think of el abds mistakes eg norwich away but cant remember hinsh making any bad mistakes that cost us points

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

What I always found bizarre is the double standards meted out on here to both Harding and Hinshelwood, both these fine young players made plenty of mistakes (much as El Abd has this season too). Yet it was only Harding that gets fried by NSC for them. Very odd.

People like to dwell on the shaky games he had, I prefer to remember how he was one our of best and most consistent players in that five-match unbeaten run that kept us up right at the end of 2004-5. He knew he was going at that stage but still played his best for us.

Mate, you've backed so many LOSER players at BHAFC that you deserve a Panini sticker album all to yourself to stick 'em in. Oooo swap you 1 hard-to-get Dan Harding for ten-a-penny Maheta Molangos. Don't wish to be harsh, cos you come from the background of a game which is 22 or 24 or 26 or whateverthefuckitis manly men male bonding in an unseemly way and it's hard to pick the winners from the losers.

But, REALLY, Dan Harding is no more capable of getting stuck in than CKR is of mounting an aerial challenge for the ball.

We may currently have a rubbish team, but that doesn't mean that seasoned Albion fans are rubbish at making value judgements about ungood players and ungood managers.

 

[London Irish]

Can think of el abds mistakes eg norwich away but cant remember hinsh making any bad mistakes that cost us points

El Abd had a few more than that but the point I'm making is let's not drag them up all the time - it's inevitable for a young player. Hinsh's were in the same season as Harding's so you'll have to cast your mind back a bit.

 

[London Irish]

Mate, you've backed so many LOSER players at BHAFC that you deserve a Panini sticker album all to yourself to stick 'em in. Oooo swap you 1 hard-to-get Dan Harding for ten-a-penny Maheta Molangos. Don't wish to be harsh, cos you come from the background of a game which is 22 or 24 or 26 or whateverthefuckitis manly men male bonding in an unseemly way and it's hard to pick the winners from the losers.

But, REALLY, Dan Harding is no more capable of getting stuck in than CKR is of mounting an aerial challenge for the ball.

We may currently have a rubbish team, but that doesn't mean that seasoned Albion fans are rubbish at making value judgements about ungood players and ungood managers.

Thanks for that incoherent rant. Was there one intelligible point in it you'd like a reply to because I'm struggling to find it?

But here's a challenge for you - was I wrong to say he was outstanding in those vital games that kept us up at the end of the season? Surely if this point is true, then he is a good player?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Thanks for that incoherent rant. Was there one intelligible point in it you'd like a reply to because I'm struggling to find it?

But here's a challenge for you - was I wrong to say he was outstanding in those vital games that kept us up at the end of the season? Surely if this point is true, then he is a good player?

I'm sorry, but I can't see one single incoherent thing in me post. And yes I know Dodgy Dan scored us the goal that got us those vital and unlikely three points blah blah. As McGhee himself would say - when frothing at the mouth at the fans forum against somebody who dared express the opinion that trolley wasn't y'know actually very good - it was a team effort.

I think Leeds selection policy re: dodgy Dan says it all. ever get the feeling you've been HAD!

 

[London Irish]

I think Leeds selection policy re: dodgy Dan says it all. ever get the feeling you've been HAD!

But that's simply not true, is it? He kept a very experienced international footballer like Crainey out of the team for a long while and a result was the first of his appearance target payments was triggered. If he was as rubbish as you say, he would have been discarded after just a few games, wouldn't he?

Since then he has been on the treatment table a lot. That's the reality of it, but if you want to persist with the myth that he's shit, keep digging!

 

[Da Man Clay]

What I always found bizarre is the double standards

Why, he acted like a twat and deserves to be treated like one.
He tried his hardest to stop us getting promoted (rory fallon goal v swindon) and it was Virgo who rescued us like THHP said earlier he looked like a petrified sheep when he played for us.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

But that's simply not true, is it? He kept a very experienced international footballer like Crainey out of the team for a long while and a result was the first of his appearance target payments was triggered. If he was as rubbish as you say, he would have been discarded after just a few games, wouldn't he?

Since then he has been on the treatment table a lot. That's the reality of it, but if you want to persist with the myth that he's shit, keep digging!

Well, as per more often than not, we'll have to agree to disagree. IMHO Leeds bought Dodgy Dan on much the same basis as we bought Turienzo i.e. sight unseen, or in DD's case on the number of his Under 21 appearances. Seems to me they've not trusted him that much with a first team appearance. OK there's the hamstring thing, but I reckon LUFC realised earlydoors that they'd bought a dud - as the more astute of us chuckled at at the time.

To be continued tomorrow afternoon (and REALLY there's only so long he can use that 'hamstring' excuse)