Hang your heads in shame...

[Stato]

I think you need to read up on bmuffs recent history...

Relegations, administration, points deductions, survival, rebuild, promotions, foreign buyout, nothing to do with the point I was making.

 

[Seagull by the Sea]

I like you. You seem fun.

In those 40,000-odd posts, there are a couple of dozen insults. They are strictly reserved for people who write really, really offensive, or really, really stupid things.



Quite. I'd go for pathetic rather than ridiculous, but the sentiment is the same.

Oh Hans, you are a funny little thing.

Are you in a private cage or is it open to the public to come visit you?

Bless 'ya

 

[AlastairWatts]

I gotta say that I had to turn the Bournemouth celebrations off long before their end. Too many memories, of our time @ the Goldstone when we got up to the old Division 1 and two seasons more recently when we got to the play-offs. To me, Bournemouth and/or the evil ones from Sarff London are occupying our place in the PL.

 

[royceyboy]

This next season is going to be a massively important one for us, as it will show the clubs true ambitions. The main difference between us and the top clubs this year was that they had one or two 20 goal a season strikers. That may sound obvious, but our top goal scorer was Dunk, so even if we had one 20 goal striker this season, our goal difference would be +10, and I think you can safely say that with those extra 20 goals we would have another 20 points, putting us on 66 and just outside the play offs. We were lucky to scrape into the playoffs last year, and finishing just below them this year would then have seemed like a small drop in performance, not the massive one it was.

The football we have played at times has been brilliant and very entertaining. We have had great possession and dominated games against all oposition, including the top teams. But all that lovely passing and possession means nothing as we failed due to our ability to either get the ball into a striker, or the inability of our strikers when they have got the ball to put it in the net. Success is built on momentum, and with a decent striker and a bit of luck, i think we could have had another great season, but it wasn't to be.

The margins in this league between failure and success are so small. I think we have the nucleus of a good Championship team, and the addition of two or three quality players would make us into a Championship leading team. So next season is all going to ride upon whether we can hold on to our decent young players like Dunk and Ince, as well as adding to the team with a quality left back, and two strikers. If we can do that, I think we will all be happy.

 

[Husty]

This next season is going to be a massively important one for us, as it will show the clubs true ambitions. The main difference between us and the top clubs this year was that they had one or two 20 goal a season strikers. That may sound obvious, but our top goal scorer was Dunk, so even if we had one 20 goal striker this season, our goal difference would be +10, and I think you can safely say that with those extra 20 goals we would have another 20 points, putting us on 66 and just outside the play offs. We were lucky to scrape into the playoffs last year, and finishing just below them this year would then have seemed like a small drop in performance, not the massive one it was.

No. Our problems this season were entirely to do with the service to our frontmen, who I will concede are also not good enough. However it was plainly obvious from half an hour watching Bournemouth looking at how they moved the ball in midfield, regularly got behind the Bolton defence, weren't afraid to shoot when the opportunity arose and clearly had an understanding amongst their forward players that throwing money at expensive strikers will be entirely wasted without fixing he simply abysmal midfield first will do no good.

For further proof of this look at the hat-full that Bent has got for Derby despite a long injury break and then remember how he looked so average here with any saying they weren't impressed. Bent is a top striker in this league but we gave him barely anything to work with. That is our problem and has been now for a long time, it has simply got worse as our better players have not been replaced adequately.

 

[BadFish]

Bournemouth have had the perfect storm of an excellent young manager, co incide with some brilliant young players.

Lose Howe and a couple of their key players, the rot will set in and they'll be back in League 1 within 5 years.

I think this is spot on. We are building something on firmer foundations than Bournemouth (although like Palace that cash is certainly going to help to sure things up). I think that we need to keep an eye on the business side and make sure that we are profitable. The close seasons is the first in a while where we have a clear understanding of where we stand and where we need to get to. Mistakes have certainly been made in the past but we can not really see what the future will hold (short term at least) until we see what kind of off season we have and how we go in the first few games of next season.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Selling Leo for 8-10 million and not replacing him with an 8-10 million forward line was clearly a very bad error.

These things happen in football, but lessons have been learnt.

Our day in the sun will come, and it will be amazing when it arrives.

 

[Blue3]

I gotta say that I had to turn the Bournemouth celebrations off long before their end. Too many memories, of our time @ the Goldstone when we got up to the old Division 1 and two seasons more recently when we got to the play-offs. To me, Bournemouth and/or the evil ones from Sarff London are occupying our place in the PL.

Both are in the PL on merit we are where we are sadly on merit

 

[Stat Brother]

The thread title 'Hang your heads in shame' is to be honest, simply ridiculous.

Following it up with:-

"I am not prone to 'wet the bed' but..."

Isn't exactly Pulitzer prize winning either.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Far too much ANGST about Bournemouth's promotion.

I guess the meltdown will go off the scale if Brentford also get promoted.


We just have to draw a line under this season, and learn the lessons we can.

Our day will come soon.

 

[Chicken Run]

Point is 7 years ago they were 1 defeat away from relegation to the conference, now their in the prem, 18 years and counting!

 

[Mo Gosfield]

We had a few, one just captained Bournemouth to the premier league.

Yes and thats where he will be found out.
Elphick and Cook ( lauded on here like world beaters ) are decent defenders but no more. Lewis Dunk is better than both of them and will continue to improve.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

It should have been us

No it shouldn't.
Like anything in life, you earn the right to success. We have made fundamental errors and until you get the formula right, you won't progress.

 

[chaileyjem]

Selling Leo for 8-10 million and not replacing him with an 8-10 million forward line was clearly a very bad error.

Bournemouth sold their top striker for £5m+ last season and replaced him for a couple of million with a striker who was the 2nd top scorer in League One. (we all know who was the top scorer) Sound famililar.
Palace, a few seasons ago, bought a striker in the summer from L1 on a free who only scored 7 goals in his first season and wanted to sell /swap him back with his original club. Fans didn't warm to him. Next season he scored 30...and you know the rest.
Nearly all the top championship scorers this season have been free transfers, small fees to L1 clubs or loans.
Ask Fulham if they got good value out of Ross McCormack.

Ask me again if spending all the Ulloa money on an £8m forward line would have guaranteed anything.
And even if your playing budget is in the top 10 or thereabouts of clubs in the Championship, it doesn't actually guarantee you a place in the top 6. We spent. We spent badly. We go again.

 

[chaileyjem]

For further proof of this look at the hat-full that Bent has got for Derby despite a long injury break and then remember how he looked so average here with any saying they weren't impressed. .

He made 5 appearances for the club, scored twice, had the ball in a net for a third which should have been given and although he looked unfit at first , looked like an expensive clinical striker. A bit like Ulloa in fact.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

W
We ****ed up this year and have definetly lost our momentum but stop whinging. Nobody has a devine right to go to the Premiership just 'because'. They have an amazingly talented manager however much people on here seem to dislike him and are enjoying their days now. It's cyclical.... They might be back in league one in a couple of years(although I very much doubt it with Howe still there) and we might get our turn. Unbelievable how everyone thinks we have a God given right.

' Amazingly talented '....wow thats quite some compliment. I assume you are putting him in the Mourinho, Ancellotti, Ferguson, Clough, Shankly bracket or then again, maybe you just got a little bit carried away.
He has done well but is still young and time will tell whether he has special ability. He may just be a ' one club ' man who has a particular affinity with Bournemouth. Fan, player, manager. It has a fairy tale ring to it. He didn't rip up trees at Burnley and there are still questions as to why he walked out on them to go back to a smaller club. Maybe he was out of his comfort zone. Maybe he realised he had made a mistake. His heart is at Bournemouth and maybe he wants to spend his whole career there.
As far as his persona is concerned, I think he can come across as smug and arrogant. Personally, I felt he let himself down when he was here with Burnley and they struggled to beat our nine men. He was ungracious and his complete failure to acknowledge that the game had changed completely was very poor.
He has managed to get the maximum out of a lot of journeyman players this season and all credit to him for that. Now he really has to prove himself.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

No. Our problems this season were entirely to do with the service to our frontmen, who I will concede are also not good enough. However it was plainly obvious from half an hour watching Bournemouth looking at how they moved the ball in midfield, regularly got behind the Bolton defence, weren't afraid to shoot when the opportunity arose and clearly had an understanding amongst their forward players that throwing money at expensive strikers will be entirely wasted without fixing he simply abysmal midfield first will do no good.

For further proof of this look at the hat-full that Bent has got for Derby despite a long injury break and then remember how he looked so average here with any saying they weren't impressed. Bent is a top striker in this league but we gave him barely anything to work with. That is our problem and has been now for a long time, it has simply got worse as our better players have not been replaced adequately.

At last.
Someone with the sense to see what the real problem is. All season long I have read post after post on here berating our strikers about their failure to score when all along the problem has laid elsewhere. It took the signing of Kayal to show everyone what we have been missing. A player who looks forward all the time. A player who carries the ball and ups the tempo of the game and sets up play. The better teams in the Championship are full of these types.
Our front men have had no service. No creativity from midfield. No accuracy from crosses or deadball setpieces. It is embarrassing how bad we are behind the front-men. Bruno, Calderon and Bennett are absolutely hopeless at crossing the ball. We have no deadball specialist. KLL isn't used enough and March has been out injured. Is it any wonder these guys don't get goals. No one would, with this lot playing behind them.
It is the single most important area to address. Provide the service and the strikers ( whoever they are ) will start scoring.

 

[marshy68]

This next season is going to be a massively important one for us, as it will show the clubs true ambitions. The main difference between us and the top clubs this year was that they had one or two 20 goal a season strikers. That may sound obvious, but our top goal scorer was Dunk, so even if we had one 20 goal striker this season, our goal difference would be +10, and I think you can safely say that with those extra 20 goals we would have another 20 points, putting us on 66 and just outside the play offs. We were lucky to scrape into the playoffs last year, and finishing just below them this year would then have seemed like a small drop in performance, not the massive one it was.

The football we have played at times has been brilliant and very entertaining. We have had great possession and dominated games against all oposition, including the top teams. But all that lovely passing and possession means nothing as we failed due to our ability to either get the ball into a striker, or the inability of our strikers when they have got the ball to put it in the net. Success is built on momentum, and with a decent striker and a bit of luck, i think we could have had another great season, but it wasn't to be.

The margins in this league between failure and success are so small. I think we have the nucleus of a good Championship team, and the addition of two or three quality players would make us into a Championship leading team. So next season is all going to ride upon whether we can hold on to our decent young players like Dunk and Ince, as well as adding to the team with a quality left back, and two strikers. If we can do that, I think we will all be happy.

Agree couple of decent strikers lb cb and not too many lomas we will be fine.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

U

At last.
Someone with the sense to see what the real problem is. All season long I have read post after post on here berating our strikers about their failure to score when all along the problem has laid elsewhere. It took the signing of Kayal to show everyone what we have been missing. A player who looks forward all the time. A player who carries the ball and ups the tempo of the game and sets up play. The better teams in the Championship are full of these types.
Our front men have had no service. No creativity from midfield. No accuracy from crosses or deadball setpieces. It is embarrassing how bad we are behind the front-men. Bruno, Calderon and Bennett are absolutely hopeless at crossing the ball. We have no deadball specialist. KLL isn't used enough and March has been out injured. Is it any wonder these guys don't get goals. No one would, with this lot playing behind them.
It is the single most important area to address. Provide the service and the strikers ( whoever they are ) will start scoring.

We've had lots of shots off target, which suggests the creativity is there. KLL isn't used because his attitude has changed this season, Kayal, Stephens & March (when fit) have provided chances as have Bruno & Calde. The goals we have scored have been from the defence because the forwards have been so abysmal.
We need strikers who have good positional brains, guile to beat Championship defenders, and ability to shoot at goal without playing a 'backpass' to the opposition keeper.
Somebody pointed out that Bournemouth, when scoring a goal, had three or four players in the area, whereas we're lucky if we have one. It's so easy for teams to nullify us.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

U

We've had lots of shots off target, which suggests the creativity is there. KLL isn't used because his attitude has changed this season, Kayal, Stephens & March (when fit) have provided chances as have Bruno & Calde. The goals we have scored have been from the defence because the forwards have been so abysmal.
We need strikers who have good positional brains, guile to beat Championship defenders, and ability to shoot at goal without playing a 'backpass' to the opposition keeper.
Somebody pointed out that Bournemouth, when scoring a goal, had three or four players in the area, whereas we're lucky if we have one. It's so easy for teams to nullify us.

Bruno is the worse crosser of a ball I have ever seen and Calde isn't much better. As for Bennett, words fail me. Lots of shots off target suggests inadequacy to me. This season , we have watched JFC, Gardner, Stephens, Crofts, Ince, Tex etc all get into good shooting positions and waste the opportunities.
Our midfielders are slow to get into the box and simply too much pressure is put on our front men. When the odd scant chance comes along and our strikers fail to convert, its their fault every time because they are useless. ( according to many )
No, we beg to differ. The main problem is service to the front-men.