Hammond..just go NOW

[Rookie]

Oh good so Hammond is the new hate figure of the mighty on NSC. Its Pathetic he does a bloody good in the midfield gets important goals but apparently this is not good enough. As a third division player I'd say he is quite good pretty sure other clubs would snap him up if we sold him or he left at end of season.

 

[blockhseagull]

I expect there are people on here that earn as much as Albion players, hell I expect I am one of them. But if you were to ask me if I'd swap my 13 hour days, 5 days a week for a couple of hours a day playing football I'd bite your arm off.....anyone would!

Do you honestly think we are the only club that slags off their players? If so then you are in a dream world. Over the last couple of seasons I've been to Tottenham, Arsenal, Colchester, Charlton, West Ham and probably others that I forget and it goes on at EVERY club. I was at Arsenal Chelsea the other week was giving Adebyour (sp??) grief!! He's leading scorer in the premier league and they are top of it playing some fantastic football!!

Football is all about opinions which is what makes it great. To denounce people for voicing theirs is not on IMO. People moan when people moan at games, they moan when they ring up Ian Hart and moan and now we've got people moaning about people having a moan on here. We're mid table in the third division for christ sake! I'm not happy with that fact and If I want to have a moan about it then I bloody well will!

I'm not having a go at moaning, just the general mood towards the club and it's players which is going way beyond a moan at poor performances

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

I expect there are people on here that earn as much as Albion players, hell I expect I am one of them. But if you were to ask me if I'd swap my 13 hour days, 5 days a week for a couple of hours a day playing football I'd bite your arm off.....anyone would!

Do you honestly think we are the only club that slags off their players? If so then you are in a dream world. Over the last couple of seasons I've been to Tottenham, Arsenal, Colchester, Charlton, West Ham and probably others that I forget and it goes on at EVERY club. I was at Arsenal Chelsea the other week was giving Adebyour (sp??) grief!! He's leading scorer in the premier league and they are top of it playing some fantastic football!!

Football is all about opinions which is what makes it great. To denounce people for voicing theirs is not on IMO. People moan when people moan at games, they moan when they ring up Ian Hart and moan and now we've got people moaning about people having a moan on here. We're mid table in the third division for christ sake! I'm not happy with that fact and If I want to have a moan about it then I bloody well will!

Well put

 

[Jim D]

It's funny that when Cullip was 'Captain Verbal' and constantly abused other players he was also slagged-off on here for being a bully. Seems the sport is to call for the captain's head if we lose.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Its one thing a couple of Billy BigBollocks loaners having a pop at the chairman but another thing entirely dealing with the captain's contract.

Hammond is a capable player, and when he's playing well the team play well. We need his contract sorted quickly, because if the captain's future is uncertain what incentive does he have to keep the ship together now?

 

[Finchley Seagull]

That's your opinion, it's a free country. I and others disagree.

Have you actually seen him motivating the players during a game? I haven't that's why he's called Captain Anonymous by lots of fans.



As for watching games, yes every home game and most away.

Considering we are supposedly in turmoil (according to some idiots on here) getting rid of our captain and the overwhelming choice for player of the season last year seems quite the most stupid idea I have ever heard. Who would you play in central midfield out of interest - Fraser and Chamberlain? Or would you replace him with the world class midfielder we are about to sign?

Dean Hammond has not been at his best at times this season but is still an important part of our team. NSC always has to have a scapegoat but at least this means El Abd has a break.

 

[Arthur]

I'm not having a go at moaning, just the general mood towards the club and it's players which is going way beyond a moan at poor performances

To iterate my last point....we are mid table in the 3rd division!! If that is deemed acceptable then I give up!

 

[Finchley Seagull]

To iterate my last point....we are mid table in the 3rd division!! If that is deemed acceptable then I give up!

Until we get to Falmer I think that is perfectly acceptable. In terms of resources we cannot compete in the Championship where teams spend millions on players. If we go up I will be delighted but I a happy with mid table for now.

 

[The Large One]

Its one thing a couple of Billy BigBollocks loaners having a pop at the chairman but another thing entirely dealing with the captain's contract.

Hammond is a capable player, and when he's playing well the team play well. We need his contract sorted quickly, because if the captain's future is uncertain what incentive does he have to keep the ship together now?

I also think that, as club captain, he carries himself with dignity, humility and professionalism both on and off-field. His week-in, week-out performances are not always exactly Hoddle-esque, and no-one is expecting that they should be - even if it's a decent target to aim for. Also, if you do watch him closely, he does perform the captain's role on-pitch admirably without feeling the need to resort to bawling. Every player does, after all, have their own method of leading.

It would be a shame to lose him, and I sincerely hope he is going to sign on the dotted line. I also hope that, despite the short-termist views of the impetuous confidence-wreckers on here, he comes to understand that the majority of people appreciate what he has done so far, what he is trying to achieve, and what a credit he is to the club.

 

[Seasider78]

To iterate my last point....we are mid table in the 3rd division!! If that is deemed acceptable then I give up!

We would all rather be at the top of the league but the reality is we don't have the finances to buy the players to gain automatic promotion let alone hold our own in the championship. It is no coincedance that the top two teams in this league have large stadia and a strong fan base.

Now we have that on the horizon but until then we are not exactly going to be setting the league alight. It seems you and others can't wait for that so why not go and support Arsenal for a couple of years and then come back to the albion when we can fulfill your ridiculous demands?

 

[British Bulldog]

To iterate my last point....we are mid table in the 3rd division!! If that is deemed acceptable then I give up!

I'd rather be in our position than be something like a Luton fan who's team have allready been deducted 10 points and will probably have the heart of they're squad sold off in January. At least we do have the oppertunity to strenghten in the transfer window.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

I'm not having a go at him, I just think he's a decent player horrendously out of form. But how are qualities such as "dignity, humility" and "credit to the club" relevant? We're talking about his performance on the pitch, not what sort of man he is. I'm sure he is a decent bloke, and I'm also sure he's a more than capable league one footballer. In fact, he could be a VERY good one. But that's not to say he's producing the goods at the moment.

Yes but now O'Callaghan has gone, who do you replace him with (if you wanted to rest him, which I don't)?

 

[Seasider78]

I'm not having a go at him, I just think he's a decent player horrendously out of form. But how are qualities such as "dignity, humility" and "credit to the club" relevant? We're talking about his performance on the pitch, not what sort of man he is. I'm sure he is a decent bloke, and I'm also sure he's a more than capable league one footballer. In fact, he could be a VERY good one. But that's not to say he's producing the goods at the moment.

So you agree he is a decent player but don't seem willing to see him get back to form? In what way does selling him help? All players go through bad patches a few good games and the confidence comes back.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

I'd rather be in our position than be something like a Luton fan who's team have allready been deducted 10 points and will probably have the heart of they're squad sold off in January. At least we do have the oppertunity to strenghten in the transfer window.

Absolutely. You sometimes wonder about the common sense of football fans. Luton gave big contracts to a number of players in the summer and look at them now. The sad thing is fans don't learn.

Dick Knight makes a stand against excessive contracts to stop that happening to us.

 

[sir albion]

Absolutely. You sometimes wonder about the common sense of football fans. Luton gave big contracts to a number of players in the summer and look at them now. The sad thing is fans don't learn.

Dick Knight makes a stand against excessive contracts to stop that happening to us.

doesn't stop dick giving contracts to over the hill players year after year that don't even play

perfect sense

 

[The Large One]

I'm not having a go at him, I just think he's a decent player horrendously out of form. But how are qualities such as "dignity, humility" and "credit to the club" relevant? We're talking about his performance on the pitch, not what sort of man he is. I'm sure he is a decent bloke, and I'm also sure he's a more than capable league one footballer. In fact, he could be a VERY good one. But that's not to say he's producing the goods at the moment.

That's what I like about you - you so often get the feeling I'm picking on you.

Some on here have said he shouldn't be captain. Being captain isn't just about leading the team on the pitch, and shouting at them when they f*** up. There is a whole series of responsibilities that go with that role.

Look at how Phil O'Donnell was being remembered yesterday and today - as an inspiration to the youngsters, a good leader and a good motivator etc. Admittedly, Hammond is 11 years younger, but he does appear to have those qualities. It's what he can bring to his team-mates as well as his own performance.

Sure, he can have good games and bad games, but (I think it was you on another thread that said it - I could be wrong) he has been VERY poor this season. I simply don't agree. He was sluggish out of the blocks in the early part of the season, but in recent weeks, he has been playing well.

 

[mr cgull]

I think the main problem that Dean Hammond has got is that he is probably best at the holding role in the middle of midfield, breaking up play, positioning himself well, winning headers and passing it simple. He does a quiet but efficient job.

Unfortunately this is not what many (in my opinion) misguided fans expect from him, they expect to see him spraying the ball about, surging forward, dribbling past three players etc - personally, that isn't his game and it is not fair to criticise him for not doing that when it is not his job.

The real problem is that I see Fraser as a similar (but lesser) player. As a result it reflects badly on Hammond when neither is doing the 'creative' bit. This is also why we looked so much better when Loft came on yesterday, he looked like he was capable of the surging role and I'd like to see him given a chance.

If you read and listen to comments about Hammond from pundits, 'experts' and fellow pros, you hear a lot of admiration for his talents.

I prefer to listen to these people than some misguided people on here who are looking for an easy scapegoat for 2 poor performances and the loss of 2 good loan players.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

doesn't stop dick giving contracts to over the hill players year after year that don't even play

perfect sense

Until this season Mayo, Hart, Butters etc were regularly in the 16. I still believe Gary Hart could have done a job this year if he had not been injured at the start of the season. Mayo had to have a contract and I agree that was not great business. Butts is still a regular in the 16.

Who else would you say was an over the hill player who got a contract year after year?