[Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

[Dick Swiveller]

I am fortunate in that I have an OAP bus pass and dont not use the car to go into Brighton, as their is a good service from HH,. but many dont and cannot afford the bus fares to nip into 1 shop for a specific item.

But they can afford the extortionate parking charges in Central Brighton?

 

[Stat Brother]

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Can't afford a bus fare but can afford £6 an hour parking. what a plum.

 

[Guinness Boy]

But they can afford the extortionate parking charges in Central Brighton?

Plus petrol HH to Brighton and back


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[Bold Seagull]

Isn’t that EXACTLY how George Street, Hove is supposed to work (the priority but, I know it’s not residential)?

Yeah, I think Gardiner Street is similar with access at certain times. There are ways of planning these things so it's not just a blanket exclusion, but a series of various layers of priority, retaining access for certain situations, disabled access, residents. If you make it so there is no need for a thoroughfare, then vehicle movements will be far less, and can be negotiated across a shared space.

There is obviously a huge amount of detail to go into the planning of something like this. We're just discussing the concept aren't we, although some want this forum to have specific answers right away. All you can say is that similar cities are doing it successfully and with benefits well beyond just emission reduction.

 

[Chicken Run]

£20 and a packet of Hobnobs.

No that’s the Valley Gardens budget you idiot!!

 

[Chicken Run]

Me too!


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Can we build an Conference Centre/Ice Stadium at Black Rock too....

 

[beorhthelm]

Both would be great, but primarily cut traffic. Explain how it wouldn't achieve either. It has in London

London traffic growth has been controlled, reduced a little, its still incredibly busy on the roads. a congestion tax means the council have incentive not to stop cars going into the centre, as they'll lose revenue. so there will be a small reduction, while the ideas of pedestrianised bollavards are blocked. taxes are good for raising revenue, not so good for stopping behaviour unless set to punitive levels, see tobacco. any plan for congestion tax should be resisted to focus on the real objective.

 

[BensGrandad]

But they can afford the extortionate parking charges in Central Brighton?

I dont know what the parking charges are in Brighton, as I said I do not use my car but thought that last time I did it was quite reasonable on the seafront and Churchill Sq. What are the charges now? The P & R used to be good value where you paid an amount per car but I understand you now pay per person.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I dont know what the parking charges are in Brighton, as I said I do not use my car but thought that last time I did it was quite reasonable on the seafront and Churchill Sq. What are the charges now? The P & R used to be good value where you paid an amount per car but I understand you now pay per person.

The word extortionate is a bit of a give away....


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[BensGrandad]

Extortinate to one person is acceptable to others. Just a thought why can they not make Mill Road non motorist and a permenant P& R not just for football.

 

[Stat Brother]

If only somebody had already said parking is £6 an hour


1 hour £6.00
1 to 2 hours £12.00
2 to 3 hours £17.00
3 to 4 hours £22.00
4 to 24 hours £32.00
Early bird entry 6am - 9am £8.50

 

[BensGrandad]

If only somebody had already said parking is £6 an hour


1 hour £6.00
1 to 2 hours £12.00
2 to 3 hours £17.00
3 to 4 hours £22.00
4 to 24 hours £32.00
Early bird entry 6am - 9am £8.50

I assume that is only in certain areas not all over the city. I would be surprised if Chruchill Sq is that expensive In fact I have just googled it and it is 3 hours £6, 4 hours £8 and 6 hours £15. Regency Sq, which is convenient to Western Rd is even cheaper.

 

[BrunoElCapitan]

For social media/dinner party virtue signalling reasons or self-delusion that they are 'saving the planet'?

basically, you're scared of change even though it will be forced on you in the future if we dont do anything now.

 

[Stat Brother]

https://www.ncp.co.uk/find-a-car-park/car-parks/brighton-centre-russell-road/

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

So you asked this very same question yesterday, and I answered you yesterday. Was it not sufficient?

Whoops missed that! Many thanks.

 

[BensGrandad]

https://www.ncp.co.uk/find-a-car-park/car-parks/brighton-centre-russell-road/

That is £6 per hour but Regency Sq is £2 per hour.

 

[The Large One]

What our city is about?

Most of these Green tossers are not even from Brighton.

Look at our waste of space Mayor for example.

You really have no idea what you're on about.

All you've done is shot your mouth off, saying nothing, and made yourself look, well... a tosser.

Go back to 1972 - you belong there.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Extortinate to one person is acceptable to others. Just a thought why can they not make Mill Road non motorist and a permenant P& R not just for football.

Is that not the kind of thing the Greens are trying to achieve? Stop private cars going into the City Centre and making people use Public Transport instead?

 

[blue-shifted]

Extortinate to one person is acceptable to others. Just a thought why can they not make Mill Road non motorist and a permenant P& R not just for football.

One of the issues is to do with when there's a matchday, (which is still sometimes a Saturday) who gets to use it the club or the shoppers?

On the whole though, I agree, that's the best location in my opinion. Not perfect, but nowhere is. If there were no private cars at the lower end of Dyke Road then buses could get up and down pretty quickly

 

[Machiavelli]

So as someone who lives in the centre where do I park my car when this utopia happens?

I'd suggest moving you out of your home, and getting Webster to move in. I've heard his well up for it. He said anything to help you out, as you're so wise