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Stat Brother

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I heard this FACT today, and it's one of those things that has actually stuck in my head. (which takes some doing)

If you fire a sniper rifle while simultaneously dropping an identical bullet, from the same height, both bullets will hit the ground at exactly the same time.
Obviously though, they are bloody miles apart.

It makes sense what with gravity and all that, but it still struck me as a 'blimey' fact.








This FACT was sent via Lascaux is the setting of a complex of caves in southwestern France famous for its Paleolithic cave paintings.
 








Stat Brother

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Are you firing the gun up in the air or horizontal. You need to clarify to make sense.
You might want to think about that, for a second.
 


Marc

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are both bullets the same weight?
Does the Sniper Rifle fire at exactly the same power every shot?
What is the angle the Sniper Rifle fires at?

not FACT is it!
 




Blake

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Jun 8, 2011
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This is negating factors like drag etc though isn't it?

are both bullets the same weight?
Does the Sniper Rifle fire at exactly the same power every shot?
What is the angle the Sniper Rifle fires at?

not FACT is it!

Weight doesn't matter - they both fall downwards with the same acceleration due to gravity
Does the Sniper Rifle fire at exactly the same power every shot? - Don't think this makes a difference, the bullet will just travel further
What is the angle the Sniper Rifle fires at? This matters
 
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Stat Brother

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are both bullets the same weight? Identical
Does the Sniper Rifle fire at exactly the same power every shot? It doesn't matter
What is the angle the Sniper Rifle fires at? We'll say horizontal, as the podcast in question wasn't a bunch of niggley nerys', like on here

not FACT is it!
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Simster

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You might want to think about that, for a second.
I've thought about it and I think you're going to have to explain it to me.

I can believe they will hit the ground at the same time if you fire it horizontally as gravity acts on the bullet over the same distance to the ground, and the same vertical force (which of course is zero). However, if you shoot it at your feet it is going to get there quicker, and if you shoot it in the air, it is going to get there slower. Surely?
 




Stat Brother

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Ok then try this one:-

A Sniper shot is only audible from a range inside of 600 yrds.
Anything beyond that, the bullet is travelling at the speed of sound.
 


Marc

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Does the Sniper Rifle fire at exactly the same power every shot? It doesn't matter


of COURSE it does you GOON, if it fires below capacity the bullet wont travel as far, thus falls to ground QUICKER than it would if the rifle fired at FULL capacity......not FACT.....its a MYTH :thumbsup:
 


Albalbion

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yeah you have to rule out drag and wind resistance acting on the sides of the bullets. otherwise, dropped from the same height, at the same time,they will both fall at 9.81 metres per second and will hit the ground at exactly the same time, the fired bullet will just be further away
 




Stat Brother

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I've thought about it and I think you're going to have to explain it to me.

I can believe they will hit the ground at the same time if you fire it horizontally as gravity acts on the bullet over the same distance to the ground, and the same vertical force (which of course is zero). However, if you shoot it at your feet it is going to get there quicker, and if you shoot it in the air, it is going to get there slower. Surely?
So why do I have to explain it, as you already know!
 




Blake

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of COURSE it does you GOON, if it fires below capacity the bullet wont travel as far, thus falls to ground QUICKER than it would if the rifle fired at FULL capacity......not FACT.....its a MYTH :thumbsup:

Nope, you split the motion up into vertical and horizontal vectors, the horizontal power has no affect on the time taken for the bullet to hit the ground
 




Stat Brother

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of COURSE it does you GOON, if it fires below capacity the bullet wont travel as far, thus falls to ground QUICKER than it would if the rifle fired at FULL capacity......not FACT.....its a MYTH :thumbsup:
I wish I was paying more attention now, so I could argue the toss, but I wasn't.
 


bobby smith

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I heard this FACT today, and it's one of those things that has actually stuck in my head. (which takes some doing)

If you fire a sniper rifle while simultaneously dropping an identical bullet, from the same height, both bullets will hit the ground at exactly the same time.
Obviously though, they are bloody miles apart.

It makes sense what with gravity and all that, but it still struck me as a 'blimey' fact.








This FACT was sent via Lascaux is the setting of a complex of caves in southwestern France famous for its Paleolithic cave paintings.

This is not correct because the time factor involved in the bullet travelling how ever far, has to be taken into consideration so therefore the bullet dropped from the rifle will hit the ground a good deal earlier than the fired one FACT ?????????
 




Notters

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It's just a very long winded way of saying that all objects dropped from the same height will take the same time to fall from the ground (ignoring air resistance). GCSE phyics :shrug:
 






Albalbion

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This is not correct because the time factor involved in the bullet travelling how ever far, has to be taken into consideration so therefore the bullet dropped from the rifle will hit the ground a good deal earlier than the fired one FACT ?????????

the 'how ever far' distance, will be however far it can get in 9.81 seconds, which is the speed of gravity. the horizontal distance is only as far as it can get in the time it takes to drop downwards.
 


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