Parson Henry
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Why not, they have played outstanding cricket. To keep it smacks of arrogance and snobbery!
The English cricket team is a bloody disgrace.
The English cricket team is a bloody disgrace.
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Give the Aussies the Urn
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Brighton Bhuna Boy
Quite right, they won it so it should remain in Australia.
Tubby Mondays
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I thought Little Urn was dead?!
Parson Henry
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Nurse Laura
Huh? What's happened?
Tubby Mondays
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Perry Milkins said:
Whey hey! Wheres he gone?
Poor little cup mightn't survive the journey? I don't mind where they are really - they did seem to be in the right place at Lords and we have sooooo many trophies a little pot like that would get swamped 
Lord Bracknell
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The Urn was NEVER a trophy.
It was a joke.
After the 1882 test, there was an obituary placed in the Sporting Times. It said 'RIP English cricket, the body will be burnt and the Ashes taken back to Australia'.
When the England team came out to Australia the following winter, there was a social match played at Sunbury and at the end of that game, as a corollary of that joke, they burned some bails and put them in an urn and gave them as a gift to Ivo Bligh, who became Lord Darnley.
He took it home and the MCC didn't even know this urn existed until Darnley died in 1927 and his widow gave the urn to Lord's.
The fact that no-one knew about the Urn until 44 years after it had been made didn't stop the competition being called "The Ashes".
See yesterday's Guardian for more information:-
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/ashes2006-07/story/0,,1982338,00.html
It was a joke.
After the 1882 test, there was an obituary placed in the Sporting Times. It said 'RIP English cricket, the body will be burnt and the Ashes taken back to Australia'.
When the England team came out to Australia the following winter, there was a social match played at Sunbury and at the end of that game, as a corollary of that joke, they burned some bails and put them in an urn and gave them as a gift to Ivo Bligh, who became Lord Darnley.
He took it home and the MCC didn't even know this urn existed until Darnley died in 1927 and his widow gave the urn to Lord's.
The fact that no-one knew about the Urn until 44 years after it had been made didn't stop the competition being called "The Ashes".
See yesterday's Guardian for more information:-
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/ashes2006-07/story/0,,1982338,00.html
Lammy
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Lord Bracknell said:
LB stop ruining our discussions with well thought out reason and fact!
Stinkers Bridge
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Tubby Mondays said:
He'll never sell any ice creams going that fast !
Lord Bracknell
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Sorry. I'm just trying to distance myself from what that idiot Branson was saying in Sydney earlier this week.Lammy said:
Lord Bracknell said:
I missed that - what was he saying?
Lord Bracknell
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He was saying that his airline might refuse to take the trophy back to London.tedebear said:
A few choice quotes from his press conference:-
"In 1882 the idea was that the Ashes would come to Australia, and they would then come back to England, but then an English captain grabbed hold of them and they have kept them at Lord's ever since. It's wrong."
Informed that the MCC have often stated that the urn was a private gift, Branson rifled desperately through his notes. "I think the MCC are mistaken. I think it was originally a trophy, not a gift. The Ashes were burned when Britain, ehm when England, lost the 1882 game and it was turned into a trophy which the Australians took back to Australia and I think, and I may be wrong, but I think the MCC may be rewriting history."
"The MMC can always have a replica in their box if they want."
Branson seems to think that the MMC is the home of Britain's cricket team.
Lord Bracknell said:He was saying that his airline might refuse to take the trophy back to London.
A few choice quotes from his press conference:-
"In 1882 the idea was that the Ashes would come to Australia, and they would then come back to England, but then an English captain grabbed hold of them and they have kept them at Lord's ever since. It's wrong."
Informed that the MCC have often stated that the urn was a private gift, Branson rifled desperately through his notes. "I think the MCC are mistaken. I think it was originally a trophy, not a gift. The Ashes were burned when Britain, ehm when England, lost the 1882 game and it was turned into a trophy which the Australians took back to Australia and I think, and I may be wrong, but I think the MCC may be rewriting history."
"The MMC can always have a replica in their box if they want."
Branson seems to think that the MMC is the home of Britain's cricket team.
They should never have changed their name from MCC to England.