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IKDRF

New member
May 1, 2009
351
I never fly the St Georges Cross or wear the Three Lions

Not because I dont love my country- I do (Although I don't hate all others with that)

I dont fly the George Cross because it is not trully an English symbol, to me anyway. George is a legend at best and was Palestinian or Turkish (depending on which of the numerous accounts). Also the St Georges cross is the flag of Georgia and a number of worldwide cities. Other countries also celebrate St Georges Day. And as for the Three Lions- I didnt see many of them out walking on the Downs yesterday!

Yet when I wear the Rugby Shirt and the English Rose (Ok an import probably a number of centuries ago) I feel pride. Perhaps the Rugby shirt is more of a symbol of benign pride rather than hate as some have made the others. But certainly I am an Englishman and wish to wear something that is essentially English.

So if as a nation we were starting from scratch what would our symbol be?
 








BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Yet when I wear the Rugby Shirt and the English Rose (Ok an import probably a number of centuries ago) I feel pride. Perhaps the Rugby shirt is more of a symbol of benign pride rather than hate as some have made the others. But certainly I am an Englishman and wish to wear something that is essentially English.

So if as a nation we were starting from scratch what would our symbol be?

It always amazes me as to why the England Rugby shirt sports a Red Rose when in the War of the Roses the victors were Yorkshire and the White Rose not Lancashire.
 


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bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
It always amazes me as to why the England Rugby shirt sports a Red Rose when in the War of the Roses the victors were Yorkshire and the White Rose not Lancashire.

Richard of York died on Bosworth Field and Henry Tudor (of Lancashire) ended up as king. The was the end of the War of the Roses.
 


sammy g

New member
I never fly the St Georges Cross or wear the Three Lions

Not because I dont love my country- I do (Although I don't hate all others with that)

I dont fly the George Cross because it is not trully an English symbol, to me anyway. George is a legend at best and was Palestinian or Turkish (depending on which of the numerous accounts). Also the St Georges cross is the flag of Georgia and a number of worldwide cities. Other countries also celebrate St Georges Day. And as for the Three Lions- I didnt see many of them out walking on the Downs yesterday!

Yet when I wear the Rugby Shirt and the English Rose (Ok an import probably a number of centuries ago) I feel pride. Perhaps the Rugby shirt is more of a symbol of benign pride rather than hate as some have made the others. But certainly I am an Englishman and wish to wear something that is essentially English.

So if as a nation we were starting from scratch what would our symbol be?

Have you got a beer belly? not uniquely English, but I feel like we have adopted it as our symbol when travelling!
 








Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
It certainly wouldn't be anything stylish, would it?
 




Richard of York died on Bosworth Field and Henry Tudor (of Lancashire) ended up as king. The was the end of the War of the Roses.
Lancashire? Nah.

Harri Tudur was born in Pembrokeshire. His grandfather, Owain ap Maredudd ap Tewdwr, was born in Anglesey. It was Owain Tewdwr who founded the House of Lancaster, by marrying Catherine de Valois, widow of Henry V and daughter of King Charles VI of France and Isabelle of Bavaria.

The tradition of Lancashire claiming the credit for all this lives on today in that county's ludicrous assertion that they are the finest cricket team in the world.
 


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