girl's car collides with police car

[BHAFC_Pandapops]

Teenage girl injured when police car on emergency call crashes into her car From The Argus)

interesting, this, it is highly unlikely that the police car caused the crash, is my opinion, but what of you guys and girls on nsc?

clearly there is already one person on the anti police bandwagon

 

[Falkor]

Depends on a scenario i know a police officer wont say which area he was in was answering a shout, had his blues on but when he came to a T junction didn't put his siren on, and went straight into another car, actually injuring a man so badly he was very luck to be alive, he was suspended and im not sure the final outcome on the case.

We need to know more about the accident before being able to comment

 

[Seagull over Canaryland]

The Police rightly take such matters very seriously and have strict procedures for investigating RTCs involving the emergency services not least 'PolAccs' involving their own staff.

In addition to witnesses, their own on board vehicle cameras (if fitted and operating etc) they will also have access to the onboard 'black boxes' that are fitted to most emergency service vehicles that will show the speeds, whether the vehicle was braking, accelerating and what signals and warning devices were operating. This should help ensure a thorough investigation.

Recently saw this in action when an unfortunate(?) motorist ran into the back of a marked Police car that had just stopped to give way to ther traffic at a mini roundabout. Didn't appear to be on an emergency call, visibility was good and was in a 20mph zone. No serious injuries but decent damage to the rear end of the Police Focus. Understandably quite a shock for the drivers concerned. Nevertheless within minutes the heavy mob arrived and a very thorough process commenced, including breathalysers all round. For those of us members of the public in the vicinity it was apparent how thorough the process appeared to be, even the it appeared to be the fault of the following driver.

 

[BensGrandad]

One of my sons mates is a driver in the met and was taken off of driving for a month for overtaking his station sergeant at high speed. He was on a shout with lights on etc the sergeant was going to the shops with his wife, but considered that Richard was driving too fast.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

If I'm driving around on blues, I tend to adopt the rule of assuming that everyone else on the road is going to drive like a complete moron. Of course they won't and aren't, but I find it helps to predict the actions of the one completely oblivious driver who, despite every other car on the road moving aside like Moses parting the Red Sea, will fail to consider that there might be a reason for this and pull out sharply into the handy gap that's just mysteriously appeared.

Expect the worst, and hopefully you can't go far wrong.

 

[Bob!]

One of my sons mates is a driver in the met and was taken off of driving for a month for overtaking his station sergeant at high speed. He was on a shout with lights on etc the sergeant was going to the shops with his wife, but considered that R****** was driving too fast.

Should you really be naming him?

 

[swindonseagull]

Should you really be naming him?

I think there is more than one Richard in the Police..................Lots of Dicks as well

 

[Notters]

If I'm driving around on blues, I tend to adopt the rule of assuming that everyone else on the road is going to drive like a complete moron. Of course they won't and aren't, but I find it helps to predict the actions of the one completely oblivious driver who, despite every other car on the road moving aside like Moses parting the Red Sea, will fail to consider that there might be a reason for this and pull out sharply into the handy gap that's just mysteriously appeared.

Expect the worst, and hopefully you can't go far wrong.

To be honest, I think that's a good rule for driving in general.

 

[BensGrandad]

Should you really be naming him?

It was a slip but I am sure there are a number of police with the same name so no harm done, I wouldnt think as it didnt happen last week.

 

[Billy the Fish]

interesting, this, it is highly unlikely that the police car caused the crash, is my opinion, but what of you guys and girls on nsc?

How can you possibly come to that conclusion by reading 4 paragraphs in the Argus?

 

[Mr Burns]

If I'm driving around on blues, I tend to adopt the rule of assuming that everyone else on the road is going to drive like a complete moron. Of course they won't and aren't, but I find it helps to predict the actions of the one completely oblivious driver who, despite every other car on the road moving aside like Moses parting the Red Sea, will fail to consider that there might be a reason for this and pull out sharply into the handy gap that's just mysteriously appeared.

Expect the worst, and hopefully you can't go far wrong.

They let woman drive police cars with the blue lights on these days..... shocking, absolutely shocking

 

[Nibble]

The police NEVER do anything wrong.

 

[BHAFC_Pandapops]

How can you possibly come to that conclusion by reading 4 paragraphs in the Argus?

the fact it's hard to ignore an emergency vehicle with sirens, blues and twos going as well, unless you're in a T Junction. In which case, you'd naturally edge out slowly anyway, to get a better view. Generally everyone moves out of the way of emergency vehicles too, and any driver should notice cars parting on the street and follow suit, apart from this one guy at brighton station who stopped in front of a fire engine on call, did a U-Turn in front of it, then slowly drove off.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This comment has been posted on the Argus article.

There are some very poor and shocking comments on here. I am the uncle of the 2 girls involved. They are both very lucky to be alive. The police car hit them. The police car was said, by witnesses to travelling considerably more than the strict 30mph village spped limit. My neice is in hospital with serious injuries. Thank you to the too few showing concern. As for the rest of you, i hope you re-read your comments and are suitably ashamed.

 

[Billy the Fish]

the fact it's hard to ignore an emergency vehicle with sirens, blues and twos going as well, unless you're in a T Junction. In which case, you'd naturally edge out slowly anyway, to get a better view. Generally everyone moves out of the way of emergency vehicles too, and any driver should notice cars parting on the street and follow suit, apart from this one guy at brighton station who stopped in front of a fire engine on call, did a U-Turn in front of it, then slowly drove off.

I assume you were an eyewitness to the whole incident then, because none of that is covered in the article.

 

[teaboy]

This comment has been posted on the Argus article.

There are some very poor and shocking comments on here. I am the uncle of the 2 girls involved. They are both very lucky to be alive. The police car hit them. The police car was said, by witnesses to travelling considerably more than the strict 30mph village spped limit. My neice is in hospital with serious injuries. Thank you to the too few showing concern. As for the rest of you, i hope you re-read your comments and are suitably ashamed.

It still doesn't state whether the police were driving illegally or not, or who was at fault for the crash though. Emergency vehicles when responding to a call (as is the case in this situation) can legally drive 20mph faster than the speed limit.

 

[BHAFC_Pandapops]

I assume you were an eyewitness to the whole incident then, because none of that is covered in the article.

it's just a possibility. i'm going by how I've been taught to drive..

 

[Superphil]

Emergency vehicles when responding to a call (as is the case in this situation) can legally drive 20mph faster than the speed limit.

Is that the case, I never knew that

 

[Titanic]

It still doesn't state whether the police were driving illegally or not, or who was at fault for the crash though. Emergency vehicles when responding to a call (as is the case in this situation) can legally drive 20mph faster than the speed limit.

An arbitrary +20mph seems odd to me.... 50 in a 30 is very different from 90 on a motorway, for example.

Anyway, I wasn't aware there was any 'legal' limit... I would have thought it was up to them to drive safely, whatever the prevailing conditions.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Emergency vehicles when responding to a call (as is the case in this situation) can legally drive 20mph faster than the speed limit.

For clarification, folks, that's not true. Emergency service vehicles have en exemption from certain elements of the Road Traffic Act if complying with them would hinder the ability of the driver to do their job. Principally: speed limits, keep left signs and traffic signals (ie red lights).

There is nothing in the legislation about 20mph.