Get Wilkins back in charge now!

[Basil Fawlty]

Sacking a manager in October is suicide. MA will sort this mess out, so trust him or support another team. For bringing back Wilkins, what planet are you seriously living on!

 

[vegster]

This isn't The Wizard Of Oz, you can NEVER go back as Adams is finding out now as did, Alan Mullery, Howard Kendall, Kevin Keegan et al.

If we had any one of Coppell or Taylor I fear we would still be in the same mess.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

I totally agree that the way to deal with this was to come out and tell everyone why he was sacked. But there could be reasons for not doing so.

I have no idea, and this is just a scenario, but what if Deano had had a breakdown? Club back him, he doesn't get better. Club offer him a way out which he declines so club forced to sack him but both parties sign a mutual non-disclosure doco?

We'd want to know - but neither party would want to tell us.

Just one scenario - 100% sure that isn't what happened - but you can see how it might be that it is kept private. However, you are right - this does nothing to quell the rumours.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

And we only became good when Zamora came in. The chances of finding another premiership striker is practically zero. What annoys me even more is that he's just bringing in journeymen shite and taking out all the Brighton-born youngsters... and the team is worse.

Zamora was the icing on the cake. They were a good team without him. Steele would have scored a lot of goals if always available and selected for that team. You would have scored a few as well.

I agree about the young players - but MA likes his own men. And that was no secret when he joined.

 

[El Presidente]

if wilkins came back my legs would be a hundred miles wide, but it ain't gonna happen unfortunately

NAUGHTY Debbie

 

[bristolseagull]

that's right, lets get rid of ANOTHER manager just because we've lost against the best team in League 1 and then wait around for 6 weeks while another one's appointed and then meanwhile, Dean White & Bob Booker would be in charge.

I'll tell you what - why don't you knockers and moaners f*ck off back to Selhurst and support your real team instead of making ridiculous statements and posts like this one.

I dont think the original comment is ridiculous- it's an opinion based on fact. We've been shite since Adams returned, the style of football is worse than last season and some of Adams team selections/formations have been somewhat baffling.

How much longer do you suggest we give Adams to turn it around? If we keep playing like this you too at some point will question his methods.......




I support him 100%, but my patience is running thin.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

The difference IMO, is that last time out, wholesale changes really were needed. He inherited a *terrible* side. This time, he simply needed to tinker with a side already on the cusp of the play off places.

And lets face it, his changes haven't inspired confidence. Rumours of players on contracts guaranteeing a starting place, coupled with his bizarre choice of where to play Virgo and decision to play Hawkins when blatently unfit - well they don't sit well with me.

Was that team last year that good. I know the table doesn't lie - and I didn't see them often - but the games I did see I was unconvinced. We did at times play some good football - but mainly somehow against 10 men.

I agree about Virgo and Hawkins - on Saturday it was so obvious to have Virgo and Elphick together at the back.

 

[El Presidente]

Taylor is probably the most under rated Albion manager in the history of the club.

I agree with US here too. But even though we went up as CHAMPIONS, he still got loads of stick for his cautious tactics.

There is a huge reality gap between the football people expect for paying £24 a pop, and the football you can realistically get on sub 6,000 gates in a stadium you don't even own.

 

[Simster]

Was that team last year that good. I know the table doesn't lie - and I didn't see them often - but the games I did see I was unconvinced. We did at times play some good football - but mainly somehow against 10 men.

I agree about Virgo and Hawkins - on Saturday it was so obvious to have Virgo and Elphick together at the back.

You said it DKM - the table doesn't lie.

A bit of steel in midfield, a full back and perhaps a journey back up striker and I think we'd have been in the top 4 or 5 all season. We were a similar standard to Oldham last season. Decent but frustratingly inconsistent. Now look at THEM.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Isn't going to happen so why start a thread about it. Bringing back a former manager doesn't work.... apparently.

If you don't like the thread don't post on it. It's that simple

 

[Stumpy Tim]

You said it DKM - the table doesn't lie.

A bit of steel in midfield, a full back and perhaps a journey back up striker and I think we'd have been in the top 4 or 5 all season. We were a similar standard to Oldham last season. Decent but frustratingly inconsistent. Now look at THEM.

Precisely. I think signing Virgo was an excellent move - but play him at the back. Mcleod was a good signing if he was fit. One more central mifielder and that was enough.

Instead he's brought in Hawkins, Savage, Thornton (why??), & Asyssyjhjbxsjbxj (and then plays Virgo in his favoured position). Baffling

 

[Questions]

This isn't The Wizard Of Oz, you can NEVER go back as Adams is finding out now as did, Alan Mullery, Howard Kendall, Kevin Keegan et al.

If we had any one of Coppell or Taylor I fear we would still be in the same mess.

I was being flippant by the way Veg.

The problem as I see it - and I am always right - is new managers like to put their own stamp on things, sometimes purely out of ego. Taylor was not like that and he knew what was best tactically when he came to us and tinkered without upsetting the natural order of things.

Knight would never have Taylor back so its immaterial.



ps Terry was wrong on Wentworths address in quiz.

 

[Basil Fawlty]

Precisely. I think signing Virgo was an excellent move - but play him at the back. Mcleod was a good signing if he was fit. One more central mifielder and that was enough.

Instead he's brought in Hawkins, Savage, Thornton (why??), & Asyssyjhjbxsjbxj (and then plays Virgo in his favoured position). Baffling

Were you at the Cheltenham home game? Thornton ran the show in midfield.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Were you at the Cheltenham home game? Thornton ran the show in midfield.

I'm not saying he isn't a good player. But what's the point in bringing one player in for a month? We've already been told Coventry want him back. That's hardly part of a "rebuilding exercise". Same could be said of Savage

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

What annoys me even more is that he's just bringing in journeymen shite and taking out all the Brighton-born youngsters... and the team is worse.

100% Correct.

Now I haven't seen every game this season by a long way, but I was at Leeds on Saturday and with the exception of the first 20 minutes we were woeful. Really woeful.

We have certainly gone backwards since last season - IMO by quite a long way.

Players are being played out of position.

Unfit players are being played.

Our youngsters who at least last year showed passion and pride have been replaced by players who have simply not improved the team.

The team is playing as individuals rather than as a team. Where has that confidence and team spirt gone from last year?

We really must win on Saturday - I don't want to be playing Crawley next season. I am desparate for Adams to do well, because I am despartate for the Albion to do well, but were any of the following decisions correct? :

Bringing back Bob Booker - I got there early enough to watch the warm up on Saturday - very amateurish.

Keeping White : What DOES he do? (If Adams can't coach is White / Booker the best we can do?)

Hart / Mayo - great servants but why give Mayo a contract then loan him out?

Hawkins?? Lynch is a better player and a better prospect (Anyway Virgo should be playing at the back with Elphick.)

Savage?? I have no idea what we are paying him but whatever it is it could have been spent better IMO.

DK has nailed his colours very firmly to the MA's mast - he must be rather concerned at the moment. When you sack a manager who has taken your team to one place off the play-offs, anything less than that must be seen as failure.

Of course it's only October, but we have some hard games coming up, it will interesting to see what DK does if we are much below half way come Christmas.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Were you at the Cheltenham home game? Thornton ran the show in midfield.

And then Adams drops him...........

 

[Icy Gull]

What really concerns me is that, we are assured by the pro Adams posters, Wilkins was USELESS at man management and yet his teams appear to have, for the most part, played with more passion than Micky "I expect my players to run through brick walls for me" Adams. WTF?

 

[Knotty]

What really concerns me is that, we are assured by the pro Adams posters, Wilkins was USELESS at man management and yet his teams appear to have, for the most part, played with more passion than Micky "I expect my players to run through brick walls for me" Adams. WTF?

I sem to recall plenty of complaints of 'lack of passion' being made against the team last season under DW, too.

I didn't agree with it then and I don't now. Poor play doesn't equal lack of passion, and although it is a factor very conveniently forgotten when criticising the team (last season and this) there is always, surprisingly, another team on the pitch whose performance can directly affect ours.

Poor play can be clearly seen and criticism for it is deserved. Criticism for lack of passion is guesswork at best. I always played with 100% passion but I was frequently crap!

 

[Elder for England]

I haven't been on here for a few days as I can't stand the shit that people speak, especially after our loss at Leeds - even though they are one of, if not the best team in the division. I logged on today thinking it would of died down, only to find this ridiculous thread!

Can I just point something out to you Wilkins lovers - the first year he was in charge we finished 18th so you are in fact comparing Adams first season (not full, not even half way through - less than 2 months in!) with Wilkins second season. People were criticising Wilkins last year, he wasn't a good manager, and now as things aren't going too well, he is hailed as some sort of wonder manager.

I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it, when we start getting results and doing well you lot will soon change your tune, one word, fickle.

 

[bhadeb]

i don't blame Micky i think the problem with all this mess lies with Dick - he wanted the change - hasn't got much to say for himself now?